My friend said Shogun looked "CM Punk bad" I replied with

[ClosetVitorFan]

That's BAD. I couldn't disagree. He used to be able to move fluidly. He kicked like a mule and punched like one too. He could hurt you bad and knock you out. You also needed a 2x4 to knock him out. Iron granite chin. He was really good at one point. Its sad because his brain is telling his body to do something because he's a highly trained fighter but his body is just not doing it. While CM Punk never had athletic prowess. What's worse? To have it and lose It? Or never have It?? And retire after only 2 fights and no serious damage?

Shogun has taken serious damage over the years. If you don't have it after 4 years of training you're never going to have it. So quit before you get hurt. So that is the silver lining of never having. If you had it, when you lose it. You don't want to face facts and continue to get hurt over and over again. Ugh. I hope shogun retires from UFC. Goes to the old dudes league. Keep him away from TRT Vitor Belfort. That guy could kill DC. I don't know what it is. When Vitor juices, his body loves it.

 

[Ares Black]

I don't think mules are particularly good at punching.

 

[koquerelle]

Why would you have a friend that is so retarded?

 

[Skeptic_Zero]

Sometimes fighters age gradually with a slow decline in ability. Other fighters seem to fall apart in a few months.

I'm sure it's a combination of genetics and environment. Just be glad we got to see Shogun's 2005. I doubt anyone will ever repeat that year.

 

[Deleted member 460645]

Shall we put Punk against Lionheart to see how he fares?

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

Sometimes fighters age gradually with a slow decline in ability. Other fighters seem to fall apart in a few months.

I'm sure it's a combination of genetics and environment. Just be glad we got to see Shogun's 2005. I doubt anyone will ever repeat that year.

Even up until 2010 he was doing well.

 

[ClosetVitorFan]

Why would you have a friend that is so retarded?

He's always been a shogun hater. Lol. It was machida all the way. I think it's because my friend is half Asian. He loved machida because he was half Asian too or something.

 

[Andre Xiong]

It’s like he fell apart before then saw a slight resurgence in his body and strategizing then his body seemingly completely fell apart again, this is the worst shape and mobility he has shown tho, I hope his team sees them and calls it quits for him

 

[puppybird]

You’re just a tit mate

 

[beephin]

 

[TysonandKhabib]

Machida is one of my favourites, by the way...

 

[Kyler Ruxin]

Why would you have a friend that is so retarded?

If you only had friends that really knew MMA, you wouldn't have too many friends.

 

[SickLikeAidz]

Why your friend gotta be such a hater?

 

[Bestonian]

Shall we put Punk against Lionheart to see how he fares?

We haven't seen Smith's ground game and Punk is a multiple time world wrestling champion. Punk by wrestlefuck, 30-27 easy.

 

[Deleted member 460645]

We haven't seen Smith's ground game and Punk is a multiple time world wrestling champion. Punk by wrestlefuck, 30-27 easy.

Damn. Ya got me there.

 

[El Fernas]

Machida is one of my favourites, by the way...

That Shogun was still legit, Jones took his soul, and Hendo what was left.

 

[baba2008]

I was quite surprised to see Shogun’s physique - he looked in awful shape.

 

[BC]

If you only had friends that really knew MMA, you wouldn't have too many friends.

I keep a small circle because they know mma, don’t need filthy casuals in my life.

 

[electricfuneral]

CM Punk got styled on by a bum. Shogun lost to guy on the way up.

 

[Thesnake101]

That one low kick that Shogun landed was better than anything Punk has ever done in his UFC tenure.