News MVP is a free agent

[SalvadorAllende]

He probably costs a lot of money,

He costs whatever someone is willing to pay him. At this point who would pay him more than the UFC? Maybe PFL.. they like to overpay guys.
BKFC is another one but he just lost there,

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Lol the complete opposite. The UFC would never have let MVP crush cans for so long. Remember when he finally faced elite opponents and got K0'd by Lima? Bellator had him fight 3 cans and Shinsho Anzai after that. That shit doesn't happen in the UFC.



This is a ridiculous comparison. Pimblett last fought Jared Gordon in his 4th UFC fight, who has more UFC experience than he does . After 3 UFC fights O'Malley was fighting guys like Eddie Wineland and Marlon Vera.



In Bellator he got to pick and choose his opponents, you don't get to do that in the UFC.





Again, you're pushing this fantasy where he magically gets gifted good stylistic matchups (and for some bizarre reason you brought up Shavkat who is one fight away from title contention). That is not how the UFC works. Bellator is the place to do that. They will accommodate him.

The maf the WW division are "gifted stylistic matchups" for him? Half of the top 15 have been named already. There are plenty of good fights for him.

What kind of nuance analysis is this that - "oh that guy isn't a wrestler, he's a GREAT match up for MVP" or trying to imply that everyone in WW are lay and pray wrestlers?

Shavkat is literally fighting a guy who no one cares about anymore in a different division next lol. I'm assuming you just forgot that.

Did you really say with a straight face that Pimblett isn't fighting jabronis. You're using circular arguments by saying "well, his opponent was in the UFC longer than him so obviously he is good". MVP has fought much better competition than Pimblett. O'Malley fought highly selective opponents before Yan (which he did not deserve to fight someone that highly ranked either). Dunno how you are arguing with a straight face that Eddie and Vera are much better competition than MVP.

I mean it's like...you're saying O'Malley and Paddy's recent opponents are legit therefore they were not can crushers, but MVP has fought better competition in recent years and he's not legit. Maybe you do not watch Bellator and just have an image of MVP from 5 years ago.


How are Peirerra, Thompson, Neal, Burns, or Magny similar fighters? How are they all "good stylistic matchups" that the UFC, according to you would absolutely never book? They could put MVP against a wrestler like Brady also, would that be a stylisticly good match up for MVP as well?

There are plenty of fights MVP can take part in. I don't know how anyone can think he has no one to fight in the UFC except cherry picked opponents. Just how bad do you think MVP is? You're arguing he's not good enough for the UFC essentially, yet you are saying half the division are a good match up for him.


You're in the polar opposite world. Bellator is the one that books harsher match ups, that is why Bellator shows are so damn boring compared to the UFC. The UFC absolutely would give someone they think is exciting good match ups. Exciting fighters only run into boring ones who can stifle them when they are chasing the title, and even then plenty of times they avoid them (the previous MW champion?).

 

[jsbx45]

I said one sentence and then you went on a rant. Ya dude definitely the triggered one here

Both my points still stand. BTW you've been acting out a lot of dumbshittery in this thread.

That being said, there are a lot of great fights for MVP in the UFC, but his asking price just went down after losing to a striker that the UFC released. We can apparently agree on that, now quit acting like a bitch.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Both my points still stand. BTW you've been acting out a lot of dumbshittery in this thread.

That being said, there are a lot of great fights for MVP in the UFC, but his asking price just went down after losing to a striker that the UFC released. We can apparently agree on that, now quit acting like a bitch.

The UFC would definitely sign Mike Perry if Perry wanted to go back. There is value to guys headlining the smaller shows especially the just bleed guys.

Mike Perry was not released from the UFC. Not to say that he would get a big contract after a 2 fight losing streak, but he was never cut.

Plus, MVP pretty much beat Mike Perry. They went to overtime because of a bad decision and MVP got out worked there. I think it's pretty impressive he was able to do that well just with hands.

 

[CC27]

MVP is an exciting fighter that will put asses in the seats whether he knocks someone out, or gets knocked out.

Asses in the seats is what the UFC always wants sir, and I don't don't think they'll squander this opportunity.

headlining a fight night in UK against a striker is one thing but he's not champ material, he's probably not getting a Conor fight or title fights or will become champ so dont see him getting to that big money.

So no he's not gonna get offered what he wants and he's not someone who is gonna take less just to be there for the opportunity.

 

[StonedLemur]

headlining a fight night in UK against a striker is one thing but he's not champ material, he's probably not getting a Conor fight or title fights or will become champ so dont see him getting to that big money.

So no he's not gonna get offered what he wants and he's not someone who is gonna take less just to be there for the opportunity.

Do you guys just take my words and make your own posts out of them?

Where do I say anything about champ material, where do I mention Conor in any way?
Where do I say he was getting the big money fights or title fights?

At this stage of his career he wants exposure, and he ain't getting that from anywhere else sir.

I said he puts asses in the seats, and he's an exciting fighter....is he not these things?

 

[Aldo145]

him vs wonderboy would be a fun fight

 

[fermaPY]

Everybody talking about him going to the UFC... But I perfectly see him crushing Asian cans on ONE and getting a good Payday

 

[TorontoTO]

Everybody talking about him going to the UFC... But I perfectly see him crushing Asian cans on ONE and getting a good Payday

No one cares about one in Uk

 

[GueseGuy]

headlining a fight night in UK against a striker is one thing but he's not champ material, he's probably not getting a Conor fight or title fights or will become champ so dont see him getting to that big money.

So no he's not gonna get offered what he wants and he's not someone who is gonna take less just to be there for the opportunity.

How is he not champ material? If UFC wanted to give him the right matchups he could 100% become champ. You really think Leon Edwards could outstrike MVP? Nobody has ever outstruck MVP. Lima lucked into the lowkick uppercut KO but the next fight he turned to a wrestler. There is not 1 person who could clearly outstrike MVP at 170. Not 1 guy. His striking is elite. His style, speed, and awkward-ness from his karate stance is a huge problem for anyone. It's so weird the hard-on people have for UFC fighters like Leon is some elite striking guru lol. What a joke. Fucking Belal is dominating UFC WW and you guys still think UFC is sooooooo much better than Bellator lol.

 

[GueseGuy]

It's either UFC or bust. Unless PFL or ONE pays him an extraordinary amount of money, he's not gonna go there. He'd probably let Bellator match the deal and go back there. UFC is the only place I can see him taking a minor paycut. Say MVP was banking $500k a fight in Bellator. I think anywhere from $250k+ he'd take the UFC deal. But if PFL or ONE come in with the same $500k that Bellator pays him, he's just gonna re-sign/ask them to match the contract.

 

[skylolow]

Hope the UFC brings him in.

He surely seemed interesting in that possibility during the interview.

He doesn't sign now at 36, he'll never fight in the UFC. He relies on timing and speed and that is the first to go with age.

P.S.: Personally, I never seemed to think he'd do much in the UFC. So many of top guys are great wrestlers and very well rounded. Sure, he''d fine but I don't think he would ever sniff a title fight.

 

[CC27]

How is he not champ material? If UFC wanted to give him the right matchups he could 100% become champ. You really think Leon Edwards could outstrike MVP? Nobody has ever outstruck MVP. Lima lucked into the lowkick uppercut KO but the next fight he turned to a wrestler. There is not 1 person who could clearly outstrike MVP at 170. Not 1 guy. His striking is elite. His style, speed, and awkward-ness from his karate stance is a huge problem for anyone. It's so weird the hard-on people have for UFC fighters like Leon is some elite striking guru lol. What a joke. Fucking Belal is dominating UFC WW and you guys still think UFC is sooooooo much better than Bellator lol.

Belal and Leon would beat MVP.

 

[CC27]

Do you guys just take my words and make your own posts out of them?

Where do I say anything about champ material, where do I mention Conor in any way?
Where do I say he was getting the big money fights or title fights?

At this stage of his career he wants exposure, and he ain't getting that from anywhere else sir.

I said he puts asses in the seats, and he's an exciting fighter....is he not these things?

Uh I'm telling you why UFC aint gonna pay him like he's someone they have to sign which is what you're making him out to be. UFC sells out shows without a fucking fight announced, you really think they give a shit about that? He's exciting, yeah so are 25 other guys they can get off contender series that will knock someone out.

This isnt the Zuffa, only guys they sign now are guys who want to be there above anything else and will take whats offered and if they dont then someone else will. Again I dont think MVP is that guy, he's gonna want to cash in and UFC at this point aint gonna be that for him.

 

[StonedLemur]

Uh I'm telling you why UFC aint gonna pay him like he's someone they have to sign which is what you're making him out to be. UFC sells out shows without a fucking fight announced, you really think they give a shit about that? He's exciting, yeah so are 25 other guys they can get off contender series that will knock someone out.

This isnt the Zuffa, only guys they sign now are guys who want to be there above anything else and will take whats offered and if they dont then someone else will. Again I dont think MVP is that guy, he's gonna want to cash in and UFC at this point aint gonna be that for him.

I think they give a shit about the English market, and he's the 3rd most popular English fighter

 

[CC27]

I think they give a shit about the English market, and he's the 3rd most popular English fighter

Sure they do and they can trot out Tom or Paddy or Allen on fight nights and sell out. If MVP wants to come over great they'd sign him for sure but are they giving him hundreds of thousands of dollars, no. And if you think they are then you havent been paying attention to how this company is being run.

 

[StonedLemur]

Sure they do and they can trot out Tom or Paddy or Allen on fight nights and sell out. If MVP wants to come over great they'd sign him for sure but are they giving him hundreds of thousands of dollars, no. And if you think they are then you havent been paying attention to how this company is being run.

Ok, you have your opinion and I have mine, take care sir.

 

[TorontoTO]

Uh I'm telling you why UFC aint gonna pay him like he's someone they have to sign which is what you're making him out to be. UFC sells out shows without a fucking fight announced, you really think they give a shit about that? He's exciting, yeah so are 25 other guys they can get off contender series that will knock someone out.

This isnt the Zuffa, only guys they sign now are guys who want to be there above anything else and will take whats offered and if they dont then someone else will. Again I dont think MVP is that guy, he's gonna want to cash in and UFC at this point aint gonna be that for him.

Half the event this week in London is unsold, so obviously they need to put someone with a name on these cards. The shine of the UFC coming to town is gone

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Sure they do and they can trot out Tom or Paddy or Allen on fight nights and sell out. If MVP wants to come over great they'd sign him for sure but are they giving him hundreds of thousands of dollars, no. And if you think they are then you havent been paying attention to how this company is being run.

What do you think, they are giving MVP a 25/25 deal? Obviously he is going to have a 6 figure contract.


I don't think the UFC is going to look at MVP and go "well, we already have Paddy Pimblet!". I think you're making this seem like it's some extreme signing like either MVP has to bend over backwards for the UFC to get signed of the UFC has to bend over for him, when in fact it is pretty mutual and a relatively straight forward signing?

Maybe MVP does go for more cash and doesnt sign with the UFC but he would get 6 figures regardless of where he goes. I mean...that's really obvious, again, what exactly do you think they would pay MVP? 6 figures is not a high barrier even for the UFC, no one is saying he will make 700k per fight.

 

[CC27]

What do you think, they are giving MVP a 25/25 deal? Obviously he is going to have a 6 figure contract.


I don't think the UFC is going to look at MVP and go "well, we already have Paddy Pimblet!". I think you're making this seem like it's some extreme signing like either MVP has to bend over backwards for the UFC to get signed of the UFC has to bend over for him, when in fact it is pretty mutual and a relatively straight forward signing?

Maybe MVP does go for more cash and doesnt sign with the UFC but he would get 6 figures regardless of where he goes. I mean...that's really obvious, again, what exactly do you think they would pay MVP? 6 figures is not a high barrier even for the UFC, no one is saying he will make 700k per fight.

I think he'd get 200k max from UFC to win and PFL would more than double that. shit its rumored One paid Soldic 700k and mVP can do MT and other striking shit.

I think out of the 4 or 5 spots he could land the UFC would be the lowest bidder, I think BKFC would pay him more.