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[Hellowhosthat]

That fight was dreadful. MVP doesn't look good unless he's fighting mediocre opponents and the UFC isn't the place for that.

It wasn't a good fight but it was a close fight.

Him against the likes of Wonderboy, Holland, Pereira, Buckley, D-Rod would be entertaining.

 

[blaseblase]

It wasn't a good fight but it was a close fight.

Him against the likes of Wonderboy, Holland, Pereira, Buckley, D-Rod would be entertaining.

I dont know why you are entertaining this fantasy scenario where he just gets whatever stylistic favorable matchups he wants. Again, Bellator is the place to go for that. The place where he was allowed to fight cans and build his highlight reel up. The UFC drowns 36 year olds with name value in the deep end.

 

[wwkirk]

I dont know why you are entertaining this fantasy scenario where he just gets whatever stylistic favorable matchups he wants. Again, Bellator is the place to go for that. The place where he was allowed to fight cans and build his highlight reel up. The UFC drowns 36 year olds with name value in the deep end.

I agree. The UFC is more likely to "make an example of him" than build him up. They might have being trying to give Kimbo a showcase opportunity when they matched him up with Houston Alexander, but it didn't work out.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I dont know why you are entertaining this fantasy scenario where he just gets whatever stylistic favorable matchups he wants. Again, Bellator is the place to go for that. The place where he was allowed to fight cans and build his highlight reel up. The UFC drowns 36 year olds with name value in the deep end.

They book favourable style matchups all the time. MVP would of course get intercepted by a wrestler on the way to the title, but that doesn't stop them booking fun matches like they're doing with Wonderboy at the moment with this Holland and Pereira run of strikers.

 

[CC27]

PFL is probably best fit with them pushing into Europe.

Unless he really really wants to be a UFC fighter and takes whatever they offer that aint gonna happen. Yeah there are fun fights for him him like Garry, Michel, Wonderboy, JDM etc but at his age and money he'll probably want and way UFC is run these days they aint gonna pay him.

Also possible Bellator matches though letting him get to this point they might be done with him.

 

[CC27]

They didn't "need" Chandler either, but they were quick to snatch him up sir.

Chandler took less from UFC cause he wanted to be there and yeah it seems like its working out for him with the opportunities he's getting so in the end like Eddie going to UFC/getting the Conor fight it worked. But then you look at others like Will Brooks who took less and that didnt.

At this point in his career is MVP gonna take maybe less than what PFL or One offered on the chance he'll shine in UFC and make more in the end? I dont think so.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

I dont know why you are entertaining this fantasy scenario where he just gets whatever stylistic favorable matchups he wants. Again, Bellator is the place to go for that. The place where he was allowed to fight cans and build his highlight reel up. The UFC drowns 36 year olds with name value in the deep end.

If anything it is the opposite...the UFC very much does put on more fun fights. Bellator is way more likely to derail their own guys momentum.

MVP getting fed cans was an exception for Bellator or rather the booking style of an older era. It's not the norm, and the UFC did the same thing with O'Malley and Pimblett.


Bellator has a lot more boring, dry fighters than the UFC. MVP has plenty of guys that he can make fun fights with. Him vs Gilbert Burns isn't a "favorable" match up for him. Also, MVP would get called out, it's not like he would have to beg the UFC to book him vs Wonderboy.



The majority of the UFC's WW division wouldn't be "boring" fights with him. Not everyone at WW is Covington, Usman or Belal.

Just recently Gary, Magny and Maddalena just fought and they're all top 15 guys. Why can't they book MVP against them - they all have different styles, they are not all "favorable" match ups for him.

Why can't he fight Neal, Wonderboy or even an insanely strong opponent like Shavkat if we are matching him with a "bad matchup"? He could fight guys within the top ten.

If he had joined just a year ago he'd have Nate Diaz and Masvidal, I doubt he is worse than they are. Again, not everyone in WW is some NCAA lay and pray guy.


MVP is easily a top 15 caliber WW in the UFC and not everyone can just take him down. This idea that he is some scrub is a huge exaggeration amplified because people do not like his abrasive personality. He was fed cans that doesn't mean that he is the modern Kimbo Slice.

 

[DoubleA012]

If anyone is interested in seeing every fight of MVP's career you can check out my thread below:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/⚫rabbit-hole-mvp-michael-venom-page-all-fights.4270304/

 

[blaseblase]

If anything it is the opposite...the UFC very much does put on more fun fights. Bellator is way more likely to derail their own guys momentum.

Lol the complete opposite. The UFC would never have let MVP crush cans for so long. Remember when he finally faced elite opponents and got K0'd by Lima? Bellator had him fight 3 cans and Shinsho Anzai after that. That shit doesn't happen in the UFC.

MVP getting fed cans was an exception for Bellator or rather the booking style of an older era. It's not the norm, and the UFC did the same thing with O'Malley and Pimblett.

This is a ridiculous comparison. Pimblett last fought Jared Gordon in his 4th UFC fight, who has more UFC experience than he does . After 3 UFC fights O'Malley was fighting guys like Eddie Wineland and Marlon Vera.

Bellator has a lot more boring, dry fighters than the UFC. MVP has plenty of guys that he can make fun fights with. Him vs Gilbert Burns isn't a "favorable" match up for him. Also, MVP would get called out, it's not like he would have to beg the UFC to book him vs Wonderboy.

In Bellator he got to pick and choose his opponents, you don't get to do that in the UFC.

The majority of the UFC's WW division wouldn't be "boring" fights with him. Not everyone at WW is Covington, Usman or Belal.

Just recently Gary, Magny and Maddalena just fought and they're all top 15 guys. Why can't they book MVP against them - they all have different styles, they are not all "favorable" match ups for him.

Why can't he fight Neal, Wonderboy or even an insanely strong opponent like Shavkat if we are matching him with a "bad matchup"? He could fight guys within the top ten.

If he had joined just a year ago he'd have Nate Diaz and Masvidal, I doubt he is worse than they are. Again, not everyone in WW is some NCAA lay and pray guy.


MVP is easily a top 15 caliber WW in the UFC and not everyone can just take him down. This idea that he is some scrub is a huge exaggeration amplified because people do not like his abrasive personality. He was fed cans that doesn't mean that he is the modern Kimbo Slice.

Again, you're pushing this fantasy where he magically gets gifted good stylistic matchups (and for some bizarre reason you brought up Shavkat who is one fight away from title contention). That is not how the UFC works. Bellator is the place to do that. They will accommodate him.

 

[blaseblase]

They book favourable style matchups all the time. MVP would of course get intercepted by a wrestler on the way to the title, but that doesn't stop them booking fun matches like they're doing with Wonderboy at the moment with this Holland and Pereira run of strikers.

Wonderboy is a special case, one of the aging veterans they have developed a good relationship with over 11 years. Wonderboy just fought two wrestlers back to back and has built himself into a position where he can be a bit selective for his next couple fights. They arent going to sign a 36 year old and treat him like Wonderboy.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Wonderboy is a special case, one of the aging veterans they have developed a good relationship with over 11 years. Wonderboy just fought two wrestlers back to back and has built himself into a position where he can be a bit selective for his next couple fights. They arent going to sign a 36 year old and treat him like Wonderboy.

He's a case where he's already a name, already has a following, is already popular in a market they like.

No point making the same points back and forth but I think you'll be surprised.

 

[TorontoTO]

He's a case where he's already a name, already has a following, is already popular in a market they like.

No point making the same points back and forth but I think you'll be surprised.

He’s not declining and his losses are not some horrible beat downs. Storley bout was just Logan hugging him.

he looked good in the first Lima bout before the KO, and the second one was Lima trying to lay and pray to a win

if people actually try to do something on the ground against mvp, I feel he would look much better. His defensive grappling skills are underrated but he has faced guys who are content holding him in place

 

[SokoudjouFanboy]

@blaseblase grasping at straws because he doesn't like MVP lol. Just because he got matched up with a few cans doesn't make him a bum.

Also the can crushing narrative is overblown. After the Lima fight he crushed a few cans, no denying that. Before that though his rise was pretty reasonable for a guy with his experience level. In any event if he joined the UFC there's immediately a bunch of interesting matchups for him regardless of where you think he stacks up.

 

[StonedLemur]

Chandler took less from UFC cause he wanted to be there and yeah it seems like its working out for him with the opportunities he's getting so in the end like Eddie going to UFC/getting the Conor fight it worked. But then you look at others like Will Brooks who took less and that didnt.

At this point in his career is MVP gonna take maybe less than what PFL or One offered on the chance he'll shine in UFC and make more in the end? I dont think so.

MVP is an exciting fighter that will put asses in the seats whether he knocks someone out, or gets knocked out.

Asses in the seats is what the UFC always wants sir, and I don't don't think they'll squander this opportunity.

 

[TorontoTO]

MVP is an exciting fighter that will put asses in the seats whether he knocks someone out, or gets knocked out.

Asses in the seats is what the UFC always wants sir, and I don't don't think they'll squander this opportunity.

MVP is the third most popular Uk guy after Paddy and Leon, and paddy’s expiration date is coming up when he faces anyone who is slightly better then Jared Gordon

they will be interested in him, regardless of age. He is still performing at a high rate and people just keep repeating the “can crushing” thing even tho he has been facing good fighters for years now. Beat Goiti in his last one who is a quality opponent

 

[StonedLemur]

Difference is Chandler proved himself *close* to the championship level (nearly beat Oliveira) and finished fighters in the top 10, something it's very unlikely MVP would be able to do. I just don't see UFC paying what he'd cost if he can't beat the top talent.

I don't think MVP is champ material, but I think he'd have a lot of eyes on him and we all know that's all the UFC cares about is numbers sir.

 

[StonedLemur]

MVP is the third most popular Uk guy after Paddy and Leon, and paddy’s expiration date is coming up when he faces anyone who is slightly better then Jared Gordon

they will be interested in him, regardless of age. He is still performing at a high rate and people just keep repeating the “can crushing” thing even tho he has been facing good fighters for years now. Beat Goiti in his last one who is a quality opponent

Exactly, you get it sir.
The English market don't have many, so might as well have them all.... isn't that the UFC way?

 

[TorontoTO]

Exactly, you get it sir.
The English market don't have many, so might as well have them all....is that the UFC way?

He can also talk on the mic and is charismatic naturally, which is a rare thing in mma where tons of talented guys have the personality of a rock

MVP KOing any random dude and doing some shit like the thanos glove or Pokémon thing in the ufc will go viral

 

[StonedLemur]

He can also talk on the mic and is charismatic naturally, which is a rare thing in mma where tons of talented guys have the personality of a rock

MVP KOing any random dude and doing some shit like the thanos glove or Pokémon thing in the ufc will go viral

His fighting style is exciting so he will go viral on its own too.
Im thinking they'll snatch him up tbh.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Bring him to the UFC and put him vs strikers only.

He can have a fun run.