News Multiple Fighters Released UPDATED 4/24

[JKS]

I haven’t heard off any of these guys.

 

[contrail]

Not that i care if these fighters get cut or not, but how does getting cut help the fighters. I imagine going to another org after seeing the fighter isn't UFC material, does not help their negotiating.

Not sure I understand your question? They go and get more experience on another org's dime then possibly come to the UFC a better fighter or wash out from UFC signing consideration. This is advantageous for the UFC, though not necessarily for the fighter; that part depends on their talent level, quality of management, etc. I never claimed it was intrinsically good for the fighter lol quite the opposite in many cases

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Not sure I understand your question? They go and get more experience on another org's dime then possibly come to the UFC a better fighter or wash out from UFC signing consideration. This is advantageous for the UFC, though not necessarily for the fighter; that part depends on their talent level, quality of management, etc. I never claimed it was intrinsically good for the fighter lol quite the opposite in many cases

It seems to me, its a bad thing for green fighters to take these "one in a lifetime" oppertunity. That Paint salesman vs Omalley comes to mind.

 

[PaddyO'malley]

Damn fam if only Pedro Falcao was di Victor he wulda still had a job

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

The criteria is pretty clear these days. Just award the fight to the guy trying the hardest to finish the fight.
That doesn't matter if it's on the feet or on the ground. If they are both swinging give it to the person who has more offence.

Control time is the lowest criteria and is only meant to be used if every other stat is equal. Takedowns with no offence don;t score. Therefore pushing someone against the cage shouldn't score. If someone goes 6/12 in takedowns, that just means half the time their opponent was better than them. It cancels itself out. Give it to the guy who is trying to throw and repeatedly creating space to attempt to throw fight ending offence.

Only reason that should win is in a fight like Merab vs Yan. Merab still threw punches occasionally and Yan got stuck in a cycle of defending.

That's not quite correct. There are 2 very different things called control. What you're referring to as "control time" actually falls under effective grappling which is the first criteria. But inside that first criteria, since it is considered cumulative, it is scored at a much lower rate than impactful effective grappling.

What you're conflating it with is "octagon control" which is just keeping the center of the octagon. That's the third criteria.

 

[maximus__]

That's not quite correct. There are 2 very different things called control. What you're referring to as "control time" actually falls under effective grappling which is the first criteria. But inside that first criteria, since it is considered cumulative, it is scored at a much lower rate than impactful effective grappling.

What you're conflating it with is "octagon control" which is just keeping the center of the octagon. That's the third criteria.

Scoring criteria linked below:
It specifically goes into using those positions to achieve impactful offence and preventing your opponent landing their own. If you are just holding someone down or against the cage, you aren't being scored under the effective grappling criteria if they can still attack you back. It's an old hold over from back in the day that we reward the fighter on top.

This line used to be in the criteria but appears to have been removed, so maybe things have changed:
"Top and bottom position fighters are assessed more on the impactful/effective result of their actions, more so than their position."

If so then it may be a return to the older criteria with top/cage control being sufficient to tick that effective grappling criteria.
As per the 2022 criteria you should have been able to negate that by striking off your back and throwing up subs and being the more effective in the grappling phase. Unfortunate if it's the case, but would probably make me agree with you.

Current criteria for grappling below minus control time.

Judges shall evaluate Mixed Martial Arts techniques, such as effectivestriking/grappling(Plan A), effective aggressiveness(Plan B),and control of the fightingarea(Plan C).Plans B and C are not taken into consideration unless Plan A is weighed asbeing even.

Effective grappling is assessed by the successful executions and impactful/effective result(s)coming from: takedown(s),submission attempt(s), achieving an advantageous position(s) and reversal(s).

Dominance in the grappling phase can be seen by fighter s takingdominant positions in the fight and utilizing those positions to attempt fight ending submissions or attacks. Merely holding a dominant position(s) shall not be a primary factor in assessing dominance.What the fighter does with those positions is what must be assessed. In the absence of dominance inthe grappling phase, as set forth in paragraph 3 of the promulgated rules, to be considered dominate,there must be a singularly or in combination, some types of submission attempts, strikes, or an overwhelming pace which is measured by improved or aggressive positional changes that cause the losing fighter to consistently be in a defensive or reactive mode.

https://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/unified-mma-rules-rev-july-2024.pdf

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

BKFC bound

 

[Thesnake101]

Kinda liked Loughran. Oh well.

But why?

Loughran's a dumb cut (I said cut), but the others are fine.

Pedro Falcao probably a wee bit harsh, actually, but once a year fighters can do one.

The cuts are fine imo, Caolan didn't show any signs of improving and does not have the skills to stay afloat at 135 without making the fights a complete chore to watch, add in to that the fact that he lost to Hadley and Lapilus who are both no longer in the UFC (though Taylor is more than UFC level) and it's not shocking to see Loughran gone.

 

[The_Renaissance]

But why?

The cuts are fine imo, Caolan didn't show any signs of improving and does not have the skills to stay afloat at 135 without making the fights a complete chore to watch, add in to that the fact that he lost to Hadley and Lapilus who are both no longer in the UFC (though Taylor is more than UFC level) and it's not shocking to see Loughran gone.

Yeah, Loughran's fighting style was hard to watch most of the time, all 4 of his fights pretty much looked identical.

 

[EndlessCritic]

I'm turning into a casual, I don't remember either of these bums and the only guys I recognize on their UFC record are Hadley, Peterson, lappy lou, and Brito.

Chang Ho Lee beat the living fuck out of Cortavious Romious. Go watch it now.

 

[Siver!]

But why?

The cuts are fine imo, Caolan didn't show any signs of improving and does not have the skills to stay afloat at 135 without making the fights a complete chore to watch, add in to that the fact that he lost to Hadley and Lapilus who are both no longer in the UFC (though Taylor is more than UFC level) and it's not shocking to see Loughran gone.

I'm not stunned by it, but I have plenty of time for guys like Loughran to be honest. Those fights show exist, it's just balancing them on a card imo.

I would have kept all 3 of the guys you mentioned until they embarked on losing streaks.

 

[Necrocrawler]

I wonder if Despaigne might have asked for his release?

He is tearing it up in Karate Combat (3-0, 3 KO, all since around Christmas, with a *combined* fight time of 24 seconds lol)

Probably not.
He was signed to Grampa Fraud League while doing interviews saying he wanted to come back.
Also, he's tailor made for Karate Combat since his worst flaw isn't on the rulebook of KC.

 

[Spath]

Falcao ran out of Victors to fight

 

[Safton]

But why?

Just enjoyed his fighting style. I know some people called him a boring, basic blanket but I liked how much forward pressure he was willing and able to put on guys. I had no illusions of him being particularly good.