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Mueller Time (SCO thread v. 35)


These would be news pretrump but Republicans have raised their own bar on what is impeachable. They have to. Republicans wanted to impeach Clinton simply for bringing shame on the presidency. legal issues didn't matter.
 
Correct and if he could have exonerated him he would have.

But the report still laid out Collusion without calling it collusion.

https://www.justsecurity.org/63838/guide-to-the-mueller-reports-findings-on-collusion/

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.

First, unless we’re talking about a violation of the law, it doesn’t matter. Even for impeachment purposes, High Crimes and Misdemeanors requires at minimum a violation of law (though not necessarily a crime).

Second, you laid out a number of factual predicates, most of which are disputed, and have not been subject to cross-examination or an adversarial process of any sort. IIRC, there is a collateral investigation into the veracity/reliability of these factual predicates, as Mueller’s team simply accepted them as true. We’ll see what happens with that.

I am not worried either way.
 
74% of Trump voters who'd heard Mueller quoted as saying the report didn't clear Trump...also say the report clears Trump?

loolol.
 
Reminds me about the 40% that think real but negative stories about Trump qualifies as fake news.
 
It’s almost like people don’t trust Mueller or the MSM.
The fuck?

He's the guy in charge of the report. He said it doesn't clear him. They're not saying they disagree with his findings or they don't trust his findings, they're saying the report clears Trump, when the guy who led the report very clearly says that's not the case.
 
74% of Trump voters who'd heard Mueller quoted as saying the report didn't clear Trump...also say the report clears Trump?

loolol.
who would you believe? It's basically a he said she said for these people...and they choose to believe Trump. The universe amazes.
 
Ic.
The thing that matters is that it was based entirely on a lie that was fabricated by Democrats. Even Mueller testified the Steele dossier was crap.
But he forged on.

Next up is Brennan to go down in flames.

Guarantee there is a pee tape. You know it and I know it
 
Maybe he can, unfortunately that's not the only thing he tried to do. According to Mueller, Trump tried to "exert undue influence" over the investigation and was not exonerated of the crimes he allegedly committed. What part of that is so unclear to you?

Not his job to exonerate Trump
 
The fuck?

He's the guy in charge of the report. He said it doesn't clear him.

Yeah, we know. No one cares.

They're not saying they disagree with his findings or they don't trust his findings, they're saying the report clears Trump, when the guy who led the report very clearly says that's not the case.

The report does not allege a crime, therefore it clears Trump. Case closed.
 
BREAKING NEWS: Robert Mueller Corrects Earlier Remark That He Would Have Indicted Trump



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BREAKING NEWS: Robert Mueller Corrects Earlier Remark That He Would Have Indicted Trump



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Yeah, it was that moment I knew this was a huge mistake for Dems. This has been a disaster for the Democrats and it's been a disaster for the reputation of Robert Mueller.
 
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