Muay Thai or boxing as a striking base ?

Guess the clinch work and sweeps are very important in MMA
Muay Thai in Thailand is scored differently than other fights, apparently you need to be graceful, fluid and maintain composure and balance throughout the fight so you can't get ragdolled in the clinch and sweped or you will lose the fight even if you imply more damage to your opponent,
I guess this makes it a better base for MMA since there's wrassling, but also there's less footwork and Muay Thai fighters are conditioned to block punches with their face
 
Why would you have to choose one or the other?
Seems like a flimsy hypothetical, we know both can be used in tandem and both work on their own.
 
I would go with the MT style with the 4oz gloves like in OneFC. Train that way. Use that for MMA.
 
Use MT like Sam-A and others in One FC with the 4oz gloves. The fighters can’t rely on the big gloves for defence and thus have to move more, feet and head. They are less stationary than the traditional MT.
 
It’s called Mixed Martial Arts for a reason. You better know how to do it all, otherwise you’ll wake up to a bunch of people saying “it’s ok, just stay calm” wondering what fucking day it is.

if your talking about a starting striking base art there are multiple variables here such as (but not limited to) access to high level coaching, your personal physical attributes, your age and your goals.
 
I think it depends on the weight class you fight in. Probably light heavyweight and heavyweight, definitely boxing. Anything under, probably MT.
 
GoatArtemLobov said:
If you could just train one of those arts and if you were fighting at the top level (UFC-Bellator-One)?
I would say boxing because muay thai guys rely very much on the big gloves to protect themselves. They almost don't move and and never slip punches, whereas in boxing, you work on proper footwork and head movement.
Of course, you miss the kicks and knees and elbows (although elbows aren't that hard to land if you are a boxer who understands proper hook mechanics...). But you won't stand upright, with 4oz gloves to protect your face, without moving, waiting for a wrestler to shoot on you.
What are your thoughts on that?
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Big gloves?

In boxing lighter weights use 10oz and heavier weights use 12oz.

In MT lighter weights use 8oz and heavier weights use 10oz.

Both use 16oz in practice.

Why are you saying MT fighters use bigger gloves when they don't?
 
DatSamboKid said:
I'm not triggered at all broski, you're just bringing up UFC 1 debates in 2020.
I totally disagree with your statement. I believe if you have two fighters, equally skilled in grappling, A only knows how to throw hands and B knows how to throw hands, kicks, knees and elbow, B has the better striking base for MMA.
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That's not how it works out. More than likely the better athlete- that individual who can impose his game- usually wins. I agree it is better to have more weapons, but you've got to be able to deliver them.
I think you set down on your punches better in boxing.
 
Bend NvR Break said:
Big gloves?

In boxing lighter weights use 10oz and heavier weights use 12oz.

In MT lighter weights use 8oz and heavier weights use 10oz.

Both use 16oz in practice.

Why are you saying MT fighters use bigger gloves when they don't?
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FYI it's 8oz in boxing and 10oz in the higher weights, not 12.
 
Muay Thai OBVIOUSLY

You can do Muay Thai with focus on punching and head movement if boxing's your thing and you don't plan on striking other than with your fists. But pure boxing training doesn't teach you elbow/kick/knee defense. Your legs will turn to jelly with a few well-placed low kicks.
 
It depends on the fighter. Look we know what the Thai fighter has as an advantage in MMA, but a lot of times they settle into this dance where they are very square and vulnerable to a sound boxer.
 
OriginMMA said:
Boxing is the best striking base because boxing isn’t just punching. The other striking arts teach you some very bad habits which I’m not gonna get into right now.

A good boxer with average kicks will beat a average boxer with good kicks any day imo.
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Sure... ever heard of Buakaw?

 
drone666 said:
Guess the clinch work and sweeps are very important in MMA
Muay Thai in Thailand is scored differently than other fights, apparently you need to be graceful, fluid and maintain composure and balance throughout the fight so you can't get ragdolled in the clinch and sweped or you will lose the fight even if you imply more damage to your opponent,
I guess this makes it a better base for MMA since there's wrassling, but also there's less footwork and Muay Thai fighters are conditioned to block punches with their face
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It's just all really different. I think Thai fighting teaches a lot of bad habits for MMA just like boxing does. The difference is the kicks, elbows and clinch game for sure. But theres also instances where a more sound boxer who is at the proper distance can light a Thai fighter up. Its just all whether they can eat enough leg kicks or not.
 
If it's about the largest set of bodily weapons, then Kung Fu has the greatest toolbox. 108+ parts of the body as weapons, including 36 hand forms at least.

That's why it dominates in MMA-- the most weapons, biggest toolbox. Don't forget.
 
Wow, another isolation troll thread.........

Hahaha Thai's don't use punches that much in Muay Thai because they score really low, not because they can't punch, you don't slip punches like some boxers in Muay Thai because of the other weapons against you and showing a lack of stability and good technique in Muay Thai actually scores against you in Thailand.
 
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