Muay Thai In San Francisco

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Any of you guys know any good Muay Thai gyms in San Francisco or neighboring areas besides k1 fitness, el nino or fight & fitness? I am currently in San Francisco, but I am willing to travel down to the peninsula.

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Dublin is way too far for me. I was looking for something like a 25 min drive away from the city without crossing any bridges. Thank you for the recommendation tho.
 
Would have suggested Dek Wat in Oakland, but doesn't pass the no bridges test.
 
Harukaze said:
TS, do you drive a Subaru by any chance? :cool:


Hell no, they're basically the Master Toddy of the Bay Area minus the stadium-veteran trainers. They sell Thai dreams to gullible kids.


No, Ganyao is at Pacific Ring Sports. Coke Chunhawat (ex-Fairtex) runs Dek Wat.
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If you're talking about me: I do drive a Subaru.
 
Harukaze said:
TS, do you drive a Subaru by any chance? :cool:


Hell no, they're basically the Master Toddy of the Bay Area minus the stadium-veteran trainers. They sell Thai dreams to gullible kids.


No, Ganyao is at Pacific Ring Sports. Coke Chunhawat (ex-Fairtex) runs Dek Wat.
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Coke just works at Dek Wat. His wife Lynda Chunhawat (formerly known as Lynda Loyce) owns Dek Wat.
 
Bruce1127 said:
If you're talking about me: I do drive a Subaru.
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I saw your thread on another forum then LOL.

Blobtheblobfish said:
Why not el Nino? The place trains Gilbert whose a really good fighter.
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Actually, that's a good point. But Gilbert wouldn't be the focus when it comes to MT, it'd be his trainer Jongsanan! The only problems I can see with El Nino is price and location though haha.

kenpeters8 said:
Coke just works at Dek Wat. His wife Lynda Chunhawat (formerly known as Lynda Loyce) owns Dek Wat.
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Same difference, man. :P
(Coincidentally, I remember meeting Coke a few weeks after he came to the States -- very quiet and softspoken with an iffy grasp on English; I couldn't see him single-handedly navigating bureaucratic red tape to run the business end of things so it makes sense his wife is the registered owner -- in fact, most every Thai stadium veteran teaching in the States has an American-born business partner if you look into it).
 
Harukaze said:
I saw your thread on another forum then LOL.


Actually, that's a good point. But Gilbert wouldn't be the focus when it comes to MT, it'd be his trainer Jongsanan! The only problems I can see with El Nino is price and location though haha.


Same difference, man. :P
(Coincidentally, I remember meeting Coke a few weeks after he came to the States -- very quiet and softspoken with an iffy grasp on English; I couldn't see him single-handedly navigating bureaucratic red tape to run the business end of things so it makes sense his wife is the registered owner -- in fact, most every Thai stadium veteran teaching in the States has an American-born business partner if you look into it).
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You do know Coke left Lynda after he got her pregnant, went to Texas somewhere and got another white chick pregnant, then went back to Lynda like sometime last year. That guy is a player when it comes to women. LOL!

By the way, that's funny you said Team USA in SF is the master toddy of the Bay Area. HAHAHA! What makes you say that? Just wondering. I'm not a big fan of them either.
 
kenpeters8 said:
You do know Coke left Lynda after he got her pregnant, went to Texas somewhere and got another white chick pregnant, then went back to Lynda like sometime last year. That guy is a player when it comes to women. LOL!

By the way, that's funny you said Team USA in SF is the master toddy of the Bay Area. HAHAHA! What makes you say that? Just wondering. I'm not a big fan of them either.
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WHOA, now THAT I didn't know LOLOLOL! But then again, with those abs of his, I'd be surprised if he WASN'T a hit with the ladies hahaha!

Anyway, I'd addressed my issues with World Team before, so I'll just quote it here again: "It's just not Thai-style Muay Thai (i.e. what you'd see in Lumpini and Rajadamnern, etc.); in fact, it's quite Westernized MT in a sense. All the World Team USA people I've trained with throw full 360 roundhouses ALL THE TIME, love the cobra/superman punch, have atypical kick mechanics (like they ALWAYS take a small 45 degree step before the roundhouse -- not just the n00bs but even the long-time guys; their arm swings for momentum/counterbalancing on kicks are unusual; they lean their upper body DEEP into everything as if they weren't scared of getting swept; knee and foot trajectory is unlike anything I've ever seen from any Thai MT camps), they use a more typically Dutch rhythm (i.e. jab, cross, L hook, R round) than a Thai rhythm (i.e. jab, jab, cross, R round), and have way more upper body movement than is typical of Thai-style MT. Now, I understand that every camp has its own stylistic differences (i.e. techniques from Sinbi look different from techniques from Petyindee look different from techniques from Eminent Air, etc.), but they all have certain basic common characteristics that mark the style as Thai-style Muay Thai. When you look at World Team USA, there are enough departures from these norms that it makes their style stick out as different than what's the norm among Thai camps.

It's not surprising considering Kru Sam has no stadium experience and is a protege of "Master" Toddy (don't get me started about that guy haha), but unlike Toddy he doesn't hire trainers/pad men that DO have stadium experience and instead relies on his own crew to instruct. But then again, it's enough for his guys to be effective on the American Muay Thai scene considering how low level it is here compared to Thailand, France, Holland, and Japan.

I don't want to sound like I'm talking shit about World Team USA, because I have met some pleasant people from there, and I do like the fact that they teach Thai terminology and the ram muay there, but that's about all I can say about them. World Team USA, "Master" Toddy, and Chai Sirisute's schools are all that sort of typical "inauthentic" Muay Thai endemic to the United States, versus the authentic-style schools run by former Lumpini and Rajadmnern champs (and there's a fair number of them throughout the US, just gotta look hard enough for them). "
 
Harukaze said:
WHOA, now THAT I didn't know LOLOLOL! But then again, with those abs of his, I'd be surprised if he WASN'T a hit with the ladies hahaha!

Anyway, I'd addressed my issues with World Team before, so I'll just quote it here again: "It's just not Thai-style Muay Thai (i.e. what you'd see in Lumpini and Rajadamnern, etc.); in fact, it's quite Westernized MT in a sense. All the World Team USA people I've trained with throw full 360 roundhouses ALL THE TIME, love the cobra/superman punch, have atypical kick mechanics (like they ALWAYS take a small 45 degree step before the roundhouse -- not just the n00bs but even the long-time guys; their arm swings for momentum/counterbalancing on kicks are unusual; they lean their upper body DEEP into everything as if they weren't scared of getting swept; knee and foot trajectory is unlike anything I've ever seen from any Thai MT camps), they use a more typically Dutch rhythm (i.e. jab, cross, L hook, R round) than a Thai rhythm (i.e. jab, jab, cross, R round), and have way more upper body movement than is typical of Thai-style MT. Now, I understand that every camp has its own stylistic differences (i.e. techniques from Sinbi look different from techniques from Petyindee look different from techniques from Eminent Air, etc.), but they all have certain basic common characteristics that mark the style as Thai-style Muay Thai. When you look at World Team USA, there are enough departures from these norms that it makes their style stick out as different than what's the norm among Thai camps.

It's not surprising considering Kru Sam has no stadium experience and is a protege of "Master" Toddy (don't get me started about that guy haha), but unlike Toddy he doesn't hire trainers/pad men that DO have stadium experience and instead relies on his own crew to instruct. But then again, it's enough for his guys to be effective on the American Muay Thai scene considering how low level it is here compared to Thailand, France, Holland, and Japan.

I don't want to sound like I'm talking shit about World Team USA, because I have met some pleasant people from there, and I do like the fact that they teach Thai terminology and the ram muay there, but that's about all I can say about them. World Team USA, "Master" Toddy, and Chai Sirisute's schools are all that sort of typical "inauthentic" Muay Thai endemic to the United States, versus the authentic-style schools run by former Lumpini and Rajadmnern champs (and there's a fair number of them throughout the US, just gotta look hard enough for them). "
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Hello,
how about Fairtex in Mountain View? It was 200$ a month 5 years ago, don't know how much does it cost now since I'm back home.
Good luck in training.
 
Azat Sultanov said:
Hello,
how about Fairtex in Mountain View? It was 200$ a month 5 years ago, don't know how much does it cost now since I'm back home.
Good luck in training.
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200 dollar a month?

oh my god that's the biggest rip off ever

americans pay 60 dollar for a ppv and at that particular gym 200 dollar a month?

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$200 is excessive even here, but ya training is a rip off in the States.
 
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