Muay Thai & Golden Gloves Boxing
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If he was a pro MT guy who had been doing it a while, he would probably do good considering its an ammy tournament.
However, I think it the situation you described he would most likely get fucked up. It's worth a try though, especially if the dude is in really good shape.
However, I think it the situation you described he would most likely get fucked up. It's worth a try though, especially if the dude is in really good shape.
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^Or at least really good, doesn't neccessarily have to be a pro. God I hate not being able to edit.
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If you do the golden gloves from a decently populated city, there are bums whove never trained in their lives, and there are young prospects whove trained all their lives. You have good hands in Muay thai and are in good shape, you may be in the middle. No shame in winning the entire gloves.
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Hold their own? Maybe. Be successful? I doubt it.
And the converse is true.
My friend has been doing Muy Thai since he was 5 and ive been boxing since i was a freshman in high school, and we were discussing the differences in stances.
And the mentality is different too.
And the converse is true.
My friend has been doing Muy Thai since he was 5 and ive been boxing since i was a freshman in high school, and we were discussing the differences in stances.
And the mentality is different too.
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Its true that stance, and the overall flow is different, but it hasn't kept former Nakmuay's from going into boxing and taking wbc, wba, ibf titles...
There is a crossover, some people can adapt to the differences and excel, others can't. There is no clear cut answer to the TS's question as it depends on the person.
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It obviously all depends on how good the Muay Thai guy is with his hands. Not being able to use kicks, knees, or being allowed to clinch reduces considerably the available weapons of the Muay Thai fighter. You've eliminated about two thirds of his skill set.
On the other hand I've seen amatuer Muay Thai and MMA fighters compete pretty successfully in ametuer boxing matches but only when their boxing skills are average or above.
Assuming that both athletes possess similar levels of conditioning the bottom line is that a good boxer is going to defeat a good Muay Thai fighter with average boxing skills every time.
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Muay Thai fighters have some garbage hands usually unless they been training Boxing, or they have a natural talent in Boxing.
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Depends how good you are with your hands. They have thai boxers with garbage boxing and some with fantastic boxing. Your definitely at a perceived disadvantage though.
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That's a load of crap.
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In Chicago? Not without training boxing full time for at least a few weeks to a few months, depending on how good the thai boxer's hands are. There are a LOT of great boxing gyms and programs in Chicago.
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Its really not.
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The are two factors I see in this. How good are your hands and two where are you competing. Obviously if you have decent hands you can do somewhat OK, but that is half the battle. Boxing defense is some serious business that must be addressed before even considering the golden gloves. Two is definitely a big one no matter how you look at it. The competition in a state like Wyoming will not hold a candle to the competition in say New York, such is the nature of boxing. I watch Friday night fights and other organizations that show up and coming fighters. I can't tell you how much times I have seen a guy from one of the states not know for developing boxers fight, who have won the golden gloves in their respective states look like absolute garbage. I am talking wild punches, no head movement, horrible balance, no ring generalship, etc. I can see someone going alright in golden gloves with muay thai trainging. I CANNOT see them winning it all.
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It's a blanket statement.
There are Nakmuay with garbage hands, good hands in a sense that they work well into the flow of Muay Thai, and good hands from a pro boxing perspective. It all varries from camp to camp and what their focus is. Obviously if a camp is known from their clinching and knee skills, you're not going to see fantastic hands. Most camps DO have boxing only training mixed into their Muay Thai training, and a good amount of Muay Thai camps in Thailand also produce Pro Boxers as well. I could list off 10+ former Nakmuay who have won major boxing titles.
No, not quite. His get-out-of-jail-free card was the word "usually", which he awkwardly plunked into the middle of the sentence.
Anyway, to add to your point...
I've seen quite a few (New York) Golden Gloves matches, and plenty of "garbage hands" in those fights. It's amateur boxing; let's not get it confused with the pros.
In the finals, they're pretty good for the most part. But in some preliminary matches, and even in the finals in some weight classes (I'm not naming names here), they flat-out suck, and some amateur Thai boxers I know would easily beat the crap out of them.
