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[James Keith]

You are arguing semantics too.

I'm arguing that the issue is not about bigotry but about semantics.

You seem to dislike marriage for no good reason at all.

That seems random.

I have really good reasons for disliking marriage.

 

[ncordless]

and it was of course solved by expanding the definition of white people to include black people.

Actually, that's pretty much part of what happened.

Whereas before all references to people and citizens was limited to white people, we expanded the definition to include black people.

 

[ncordless]

I'm arguing that the issue is not about bigotry but about semantics.

That seems random.

I have really good reasons for disliking marriage.

You seem to have no good reason for applying the term marriage to marriages between two people of the same sex.

 

[Torami]

Aren't you a advocate for human and mutant equal rights? What happened to you Professor X? Has Magneto really gotten to you?

lol

 

[ncordless]

You are implying that the language changes are the mainstream culture and these laws which have majority support are some kind of attempt at activism. You have things backwards.

Oh yeah? When's the last time a poll showed that? 2009?

Those laws were completely an attempt at activism. A dying majority's attempt to freeze the meaning of a word before time swept them aside and exposed their position as little more than invidious discrimination based upon sexual orientation.

 

[James Keith]

Actually, that's pretty much part of what happened.

Whereas before all references to people and citizens was limited to white people, we expanded the definition to include black people.

that seems like a pretty big stretch.

 

[Snackbar]

Well didn't America have a period they did this? So yes it makes sense. Common sense, as predicted.

So loading nearly an entire generation of Africans onto boats, enslaving them for decades, murdering, raping, and torturing them, in your eyes is equal to the struggle of a guy who wants to put his dick in another guy?

Im not wasting my time on this topic, thanks for the discussion guys.

 

[ncordless]

that seems like a pretty big stretch.

What's the 14th Amendment do? Why was it passed? What''s the holding of Dred Scott?

 

[James Keith]

Oh yeah? When's the last time a poll showed that? 2009?

That's the stupid part. Clearly society is changing and at most another generation there will be few left who care about it. most of of "activism" is people who jump in front of a trend by a couple years then keep fighting about it till everyone else catches up to where it was heading anyway.

 

[ncordless]

So loading nearly an entire generation of Africans onto boats, enslaving them for decades, murdering, raping, and torturing them, in your eyes is equal to the struggle of a guy who wants to put his dick in another guy?

Im not wasting my time on this topic, thanks for the discussion guys.

Not equal to, but not entirely dissimilar, either. There was a time not long ago where hanging out in a place where gays congregate was a good way to get harassed by the government.

 

[Torami]

So loading nearly an entire generation of Africans onto boats, enslaving them for decades, murdering, raping, and torturing them, in your eyes is equal to the struggle of a guy who wants to put his dick in another guy?

Im not wasting my time on this topic, thanks for the discussion guys.

Might want to pick up a history book, gays have been outcasts and looked down on for a few thousand years.

Later short Bus!

 

[ncordless]

That's the stupid part. Clearly society is changing and at most another generation there will be few left who care about it. most of of "activism" is people who jump in front of a trend by a couple years then keep fighting about it till everyone else catches up to where it was heading anyway.

Why should my gay friends who were married in a Pentecostal church in southern Missouri in the late ninetes, have to wait for their marriage to be treated equally with other marriages? Even if they were to have a recognize a civil union, why should they have to wait for bigots to die before their marriage is called by the state what it actually is instead of what it is not.

 

[James Keith]

What's the 14th Amendment do? Why was it passed? What''s the holding of Dred Scott?

Aren't we spamming up the thread enough without resorting to this socratic crap? Do you expect me to not be able to answer this in a way that disagrees with your claim? Of course there were citizens of other races prior to the civil war.

 

[Snackbar]

Might want to pick up a history book, gays have been outcasts and looked down on for a few thousand years.

Later short Bus!

Oh im sorry your absolutely right, being looked down upon or being an outcast is equal to enslaving a race.

Later long bus??

 

[Torami]

Oh im sorry your absolutely right, being looked down upon or being an outcast is equal to enslaving a race.

Later long bus??

Oh didn't think you'd be back.

Go ahead and read a little about their treatment throughout history and now throughout the world. We will wait.

 

[llperez22]

You said business cant descriminate based on sexual orientation. Although unpopular, they are still sexual orientations.

This is when you make some comparison to black civil rights to skirt the conversation instead of admitting western society picks and chooses what sex acts are moral and which are immoral, then attempts to force these views on the whole of the population through laws and media.

i never said anything about business cant discriminate. That was a convo you were having with someone else. And it's funny you assume im gona skirt the conversation by bringing up black civil rights while you blatantly skirt the very simple question i asked you, how is gay marriage hurting others in comparison with philes and sex offenders like you compared the two?

 

[7437]

Good ninja, but not good enough. He is recognizing them as the same: in the eyes of the state. He has recognized them as perfect equals as fellow citizens and human beings. Thus, he has not discriminated against gays. If he wishes to maintain a separate definition for unions which are undeniably distinct in nature, then he isn't necessarily doing so on the basis of bigotry or inequality, but a personal belief in recognizing that distinction of union.

You need to breathe out, think about it, and recognize the difference.

I dont see the distinct difference. You mean the ability to procreate?

 

[ultramanhyata]

This is how society does function and has functioned. I don't have to imagine your scenario. It has been common.

What would you have done? Make a law forcing the community to buy from the business?

No, there should be a law against firing an employee based on whatever that employee either does or does not do (legally) in their private off time.

 

[ncordless]

Aren't we spamming up the thread enough without resorting to this socratic crap? Do you expect me to not be able to answer this in a way that disagrees with your claim? Of course there were citizens of other races prior to the civil war.

So when the court says that Blacks do not have and never had any rights which society was bound to respect, how do you get past that and say that they were citizens prior to the 14th amendment?

 

[ncordless]

No, there should be a law against firing an employee based on whatever that employee either does or does not do (legally) in their private off time.

So the govenment passes that law, and I as an employee am free to offend my employers customers in my off time and there is nothing that the employer can do about it?

If I get a job at Wal-Mart, then spend my free time across the street from Wal-Mart deriding its customers for being fat and lazy, Wal-Mart just has to suck it up?