Moral Outrage: ICE Detains/Deports Man who was Driving his Pregnant Wife to Deliver Their Baby

SBJJ said:
WHAT

THE

FUCK

THAT CLIP NEEDS ITS OWN THREAD
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Go for it. Too lazy/not enough time here.
You can find all kinds of green screen news from these dick pinchers.
 
waiguoren said:
The mainstream media misleads by omission to push its favored narrative. The OP is a good example of that. That's the main point of this thread.
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Such is the intent of every Dershowitz video you've posted.
 
computer fogie said:
Now it seems he was not actually wanted for murder, but for merely being an illegal immigrant. ICE has changed their reason for arresting him:

"In a statement on Saturday, an ICE spokeswoman defended the arrest, saying that he "was brought to ICE's attention due to an outstanding warrant issued for his arrest in Mexico on homicide charges".

However, a statement on Friday made no mention of a murder charge, instead saying he was arrested for "illegally residing in the United States".

Mr Aronna-Lara's lawyers say they can find no record in Mexico of a warrant for his arrest, adding that he may have been mistaken for his brother, who has served jail time in Mexico.

Mr Arrona-Lara's legal representative, Emilio Amaya Garcia, said that his client's detention paperwork indicate that he is being held for entering the US illegally.

In an interview with the Washington Post, he questioned why his client was scheduled for deportation but not extradition if he was wanted on such serious criminal charges in Mexico.

In cases of extradition, a suspect is formally handed over to authorities in the country where the person is charged with a crime.

"For us, the issue is not so much the arrest, but the fact that ICE acted in total disregard for health and the well-being of the mother," Mr Garcia said."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45251249
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waiguoren said:
You're not reading that correctly. ICE issued two statements, one on Friday and one on Saturday. In the first statement, ICE gave a bland, general statement. On Saturday, ICE specified that Arrona-Lara is wanted for homicide in Mexico. That's the most recent status.
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computer fogie said:
Ahhh you're right, jesus....
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But he's still wrong.
"Mr Arrona-Lara's legal representative, Emilio Amaya Garcia, said that his client's detention paperwork indicate that he is being held for entering the US illegally.

In an interview with the Washington Post, he questioned why his client was scheduled for deportation but not extradition if he was wanted on such serious criminal charges in Mexico.

In cases of extradition, a suspect is formally handed over to authorities in the country where the person is charged with a crime.

"For us, the issue is not so much the arrest, but the fact that ICE acted in total disregard for health and the well-being of the mother," Mr Garcia said."

So, the original statement, reported by the media, made no mention of a murder charge, and there probably isn't one. So, they apparently did nothing wrong so it's the OP that's the fake news. Again. Delightful.
 
waiguoren said:
Right, and if the order of those two paragraphs had been flipped, I don't think you would have misread it. Try this:

A statement on Friday made no mention of a murder charge, but on Saturday an ICE spokeswoman defended the arrest, saying that Arrona-Lara "was brought to ICE's attention due to an outstanding warrant issued for his arrest in Mexico on homicide charges".

It's noble of you to take the blame, but I blame the BBC more than you here.
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It's chronological. Fogie just wasn't paying attention. It happens. It's otherwise very clear. The article goes on to say there is nothing to back up the existence of this murder charge except maybe a mixup with his brother. Doesn't this entirely explain the circumstances surrounding the failure to report the murder charge, with no blame to accrue on the reporters?
 
Rebound59 said:
But he's still wrong.
"Mr Arrona-Lara's legal representative, Emilio Amaya Garcia, said that his client's detention paperwork indicate that he is being held for entering the US illegally.

In an interview with the Washington Post, he questioned why his client was scheduled for deportation but not extradition if he was wanted on such serious criminal charges in Mexico.

In cases of extradition, a suspect is formally handed over to authorities in the country where the person is charged with a crime.

"For us, the issue is not so much the arrest, but the fact that ICE acted in total disregard for health and the well-being of the mother," Mr Garcia said."

So, the original statement, reported by the media, made no mention of a murder charge, and there probably isn't one. So, they apparently did nothing wrong so it's the OP that's the fake news. Again. Delightful.
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That poor lady and her "health." The American Health Care professionals who helped her deliver her baby clearly weren't capable of caring for her on their own. I mean, what woman could deliver a baby without the father? She needed her murder suspect husband too. :rolleyes:
 
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fonzob1 said:
That poor lady and her "health." The American Health Care professionals who helped her deliver her baby clearly weren't capable of caring for her on here own. I mean, what woman could deliver a baby without the father? She needed her murder suspect husband too. :rolleyes:
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And this is relevant to the OP being fake news how?
 
Every single person in the US should be forced to take a basic citizenship knowledge test with no mulligans and everyone who fails gets put on a boat and removed from the country. Our population would drop to 30 million if even that.
 
Rebound59 said:
So, the original statement, reported by the media, made no mention of a murder charge, and there probably isn't one. So, they apparently did nothing wrong so it's the OP that's the fake news. Again. Delightful.
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The media covered this with a blatant anti-ICE slant, yet ICE did the right thing. The media should have waited for all the facts to come out instead of relying on a preliminary statement. Their anti-Trump bias and their click-bait bias got the better of them, and as a result they once again have egg on their faces.
 
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waiguoren said:
The media covered this with a blatant anti-ICE slant but ICE did the right thing. The media should have waited for all the facts to come out instead of relying on a preliminary statement. Their anti-Trump, clickbait bias got the better of them, and now they once again have egg on their faces.
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LOL it's funny to see how much bs some people can read into something like this.

I could just as easily say ICE misled the MSM on purpose and then contacted the Daily Caller with the extra info to embarrass them. And the existence of the murder charge is disputed. Could be made up.
 
Rebound59 said:
I could just as easily say ICE misled the MSM on purpose and then contacted the Daily Caller with the extra info to embarrass them.
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Sure, that's possible. It would be a wonderful trick to play, and I would support that type of tactic. The media should be punished for consistently posting stories without doing proper investigative work.

Rebound59 said:
And the existence of the murder charge is disputed. Could be made up.
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Highly doubtful. That would be a huge scandal.
 
waiguoren said:
Sure, that's possible. It would be a wonderful trick to play, and I would support that type of tactic. The media should be punished for consistently posting stories without doing proper investigative work.



Highly doubtful. That would be a huge scandal.
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It's in the story. The lawyer for the family is saying there's no such outstanding charge.

How do you support deliberately misleading the media for the sole purpose of making them look bad? They put out a statement. The media reported on it. Then they leaked additional detail to the Daily Caller with the express purpose of embarrassing the so-called MSM. Basically entrapment.

Are they making shit up out of whole cloth like Faux News? When they start doing that we can talk about punishment.

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If they're so bad, you shouldn't have to manufacture situations for them to misbehave on. There should be plenty without that. I don't see them (though that doesn't mean they don't exist, just that no one here ever sources them).

This is not the first time this sort of thing has been tried either. And always against the so-called MSM.
 
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Rebound59 said:
It's in the story. The lawyer for the family is saying there's no such outstanding charge.
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Time will tell. Want to have a bet on it?

Rebound59 said:
How do you support deliberately misleading the media for the sole purpose of making them look bad?
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They aren't performing journalism. They are behaving like political activists, jumping on the first sight of anything that might make Trump/ICE look bad. They usually get away with it, but this time it blew up in their faces. If Trump/ICE are clever enough to play them for the fools they are, more power to them. Remember when Trump trolled the media by holding that press conference which was supposedly to be focused on the "birther issue"? Brilliant stuff, and utterly hilarious.



Rebound59 said:
They put out a statement. The media reported on it.
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Did you get this backwards? My understanding is that the media asked ICE for a statement first.
 
waiguoren said:
Time will tell. Want to have a bet on it?



They aren't performing journalism. They are behaving like political activists, jumping on the first sight of anything that might make Trump/ICE look bad. They usually get away with it, but this time it blew up in their faces. If Trump/ICE are clever enough to play them for the fools they are, more power to them. Remember when Trump trolled the media by holding that press conference which was supposedly to be focused on the "birther issue"? Brilliant stuff, and utterly hilarious.





Did you get this backwards? My understanding is that the media asked ICE for a statement first.
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If anyone got it backwards, it was you. It was not specified, but the language used implied ICE initiated contact with the Daily Caller.
"ICE spokeswoman Lori Haley issued a statement to the Daily Caller."

If the Daily Caller contacted them you would expect it to say something like, "when reached for comment". Your zealousness is impacting your reading comprehension.
 
Rebound59 said:
It was not specified, but the language used implied ICE initiated contact with the Daily Caller.
"ICE spokeswoman Lori Haley issued a statement to the Daily Caller."

If the Daily Caller contacted them you would expect it to say something like, "when reached for comment". .
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I was referring to the first statement, not the second statement.
 
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