Moose: Sherdog can suck a Lollipop

[Franklin U.]

Moose was only -160 against Lima, and only -240 against Vanderford. It’s not clear what betting odds would be against a Brunson or a Till based on that. I think they’d be no less favorites in those matchups……

Lol- wrong ..
He was -175 against Lima ...and i understood it coming into the fight. I told everyone that Lima could fight at middleweight and hed be the same weight come fight night and they both were 201( and remember - Lima was champ and looking good)

The Vanderford line made no sense . An outlier if you will ( and they say they dont give out free money ,lol). He was -470 over Salter and I pretty much consider him and Salter one of the same ( Austin more power and slightly better).

Look at vanderfords last 3 decision wins. Mousasi completely walks through those guys?????

Msybe it was his confidence or him training with the best at att ?? Idk but they fucked up. In hindsight - pretty obvious

Ok - so time to go to school.
Mousasi -285
Brunson +245

Mousasi - 380
Till +325
( this - especially after Darren officially outed himself as a palooka ).

At what part of what game at middleweight does Darren fucking Till have an advantage over Gegard.Mousasi.

Think of how massive the line would be now if Adesanya fought Till ?

Your welcome-

 

[Franklin U.]

At this point in their careers, I think it's safe to say he'd be a slim favorite over both Till and Brunson.

https://www.bestfightodds.com/fighters/Gegard-Mousasi-643

No- Till is a welter palooka and brunny was taking advantage of weak comp in a thin decision.
Gegard was -240 over a better version of Brunson at UFC 200 before Brunson pulled out.

 

[Franklin U.]

Moose was only -160 against Lima, and only -240 against Vanderford. It’s not clear what betting odds would be against a Brunson or a Till based on that. I think they’d be no less favorites in those matchups……

Let me put that in further perspective. Today TODAY, Whitaker would be a massive favorite over till if they fought agsin.

You understand how the wheel turns ?

 

[CinemaKingdom]

He was talking about the rankings. He said he's 9th on the rankings, and that he believes against anyone against 10, 8,7,6,5,4,3 he would be the favorite, the only fighter he wouldn't be the favorite against is Izzy and Whittaker so he believes at worse he is #3 and that the sherdog rankings are BS.

He is right about sherdog rankings being a complete joke. I don't even know how they can look at themselves in the mirror with the rankings they have been putting out for the last decade.

 

[kflo]

At this point in their careers, I think it's safe to say he'd be a slim favorite over both Till and Brunson.

https://www.bestfightodds.com/fighters/Gegard-Mousasi-643

The odds would likely be close, yes.

 

[Franklin U.]

Mousasi is obviously a much more well-rounded fighter. But a fight between the two would likely be a striking battle, where Till is actually a pretty high-level kickboxer. On the feet, that would be a very intriguing fight.

Mousasi is just better on feet , everywhere, and a strength advantage ( hes not a big middle- gegard).

It wouldnt be a striking battle cause the easy first round sub would be mousasi just taking him down ( or stoppage strikes).

Have you people not seen enough of Till his ppast several fights.

Listen , hes training with this khamzat and let's say he comes back in first fight agsinst a relevant middle and runs through him then THEN I might make alteration but he has to do it first.

 

[kflo]

Lol- wrong ..
He was -175 against Lima ...and i understood it coming into the fight. I told everyone that Lima could fight at middleweight and hed be the same weight come fight night and they both were 201( and remember - Lima was champ and looking good)

The Vanderford line made no sense . An outlier if you will ( and they say they dont give out free money ,lol). He was -470 over Salter and I pretty much consider him and Salter one of the same ( Austin more power and slightly better).

Look at vanderfords last 3 decision wins. Mousasi completely walks through those guys?????

Msybe it was his confidence or him training with the best at att ?? Idk but they fucked up. In hindsight - pretty obvious

Ok - so time to go to school.
Mousasi -285
Brunson +245

Mousasi - 380
Till +325
( this - especially after Darren officially outed himself as a palooka ).

At what part of what game at middleweight does Darren fucking Till have an advantage over Gegard.Mousasi.

Think of how massive the line would be now if Adesanya fought Till ?

Your welcome-

Why do you get so emotional? Lol. Tapology has it as -160 against Lima. (And -160 vs -175 is like a 2% difference in win probability).

Why are you posting odds you are making up? Again, he was -240 against vanderford. You disagreeing with it doesn’t mean those weren’t the odds. He was a minor favorite against Lima.

Till was a favorite against Brunson and minor underdog against rob (who he had a close fight with).

YOU would put the odds there. But you aren’t the oddsmaker.

Not sure why you try to act condescending with your opinion on moose and fuckin betting odds.

 

[kflo]

Mousasi is just better on feet , everywhere, and a strength advantage ( hes not a big middle- gegard).

It wouldnt be a striking battle cause the easy first round sub would be mousasi just taking him down ( or stoppage strikes).

Have you people not seen enough of Till his ppast several fights.

Listen , hes training with this khamzat and let's say he comes back in first fight agsinst a relevant middle and runs through him then THEN I might make alteration but he has to do it first.

He had a close, technical fight with whittaker 1 fight ago. And then a bad performance against Brunson.

 

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[Unheralded Truth]

I hope he does realize why he's ranked so low, although he's a great fighter.

It has to do with the let downs that are sprinkled here and there. When people understood that Lovato Jr had a half dysfunctional brain and still won,
what Moose needed to show after that was how much better of a fighter than old man Lyoto he is nowadays. But he didn't impress.

 

[Franklin U.]

Why do you get so emotional? Lol. Tapology has it as -160 against Lima. (And -160 vs -175 is like a 2% difference in win probability).

Why are you posting odds you are making up? Again, he was -240 against vanderford. You disagreeing with it doesn’t mean those weren’t the odds. He was a minor favorite against Lima.

Till was a favorite against Brunson and minor underdog against rob (who he had a close fight with).

YOU would put the odds there. But you aren’t the oddsmaker.

Not sure why you try to act condescending with your opinion on moose and fuckin betting odds.

I basically can repeat every single word of my first response to this response????

I'm taking the past & combining it with the now and giving you my opinion..... a very good one at that.

What line did I make up, btw ???

Do you not agree that even Vegas misfire s ( especially in this sport).

Did you not agree with my breakdown on the whole vanderford/ Salter/ vandy comp ?

They constantly made Till a betting favorite and were rewarded with him getting thumped.

....and I dont mean to get aggressive but when " unreasonable" comments are posted ( hed be a slim favorite, maybe, over till) then the Franklin u aggro- comes out and we all kknow how people love that.

They can all suck a lollipop.

 

[Franklin U.]

He had a close, technical fight with whittaker 1 fight ago. And then a bad performance against Brunson.

I'll admit Whitaker didn't look great vs Till but it wasnt that close and I've always said that mousasi runs through the Whitaker that fought Till......or maybe - just maybe- Mousasi beats both Whitaker and Israel. I also understand that bellator middle even thinner than UFC but at least people can admit that.

Till vs Brunson just proves my point on both on THE TODAY.

 

[kflo]

I basically can repeat every single word of my first response to this response????

I'm taking the past & combining it with the now and giving you my opinion..... a very good one at that.

What line did I make up, btw ???

Do you not agree that even Vegas misfire s ( especially in this sport).

Did you not agree with my breakdown on the whole vanderford/ Salter/ vandy comp ?

They constantly made Till a betting favorite and were rewarded with him getting thumped.

....and I dont mean to get aggressive but when " unreasonable" comments are posted ( hed be a slim favorite, maybe, over till) then the Franklin u aggro- comes out and we all kknow how people love that.

They can all suck a lollipop.

Vegas isn’t about picking who will win. It’s about influencing where the money will go. You’re making it only about a fight prediction.

 

[Franklin U.]

Vegas isn’t about picking who will win. It’s about influencing where the money will go. You’re making it only about a fight prediction.

son , dont come on my turf and tell me about Vegas agenda.

Let's leave it at that .
Sorry for the aggro