MMA will never have A-Level athletes

[Wicked_1]

Football etc players aren't necessarily athletic. Brady is not athletic. Most linemen are not athletic. Rbs, wr, dB, safeties.. They are athletic. Most boxers aren't very athletic... Even with all the money they make. George Forman for example. Not athletic.
If u go by definition... Strong, health.. Good at sports... Then I guess u would have to say someone like khabib is a level. He's good at his sport.. Strong.. Unbeaten. So in definitive terms he's A level. By definition, anyone who is in the top 10 would be an a level athlete .. At their sport which is fighting. If they are good at it they are athletic, if they are top guys.. That makes em a level. Then u look at say Roy Nelson... Not the picture u think of when u hear the word athletic. Had he won a belt and been say 33 and 1 in his career... By definition he would be a level.
I think the problem is people think by athletic... It means strong.. Dexterity off the chart... Healthy.. And dominating in anything they do. That's not the case at all. Sumo wrestlers are athletes, so the best are a level. They are strong for sure, but would they be good at hockey? If so we would have surely seen a sumo wrestler be a goalie seeing he would block most of the net when not even moving.
Any definition that's reasonable on the internet says top guys.. Excells at their sport.. Makes national or Olympic team.. So if u use that as a definition... There are many a level mma guys. If u made an mma national team or Olympic team... The guys would come from the ufc mostly because they are the best. Just like when NBA or NHL players do Olympics.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

My point is athleticism trancends those two categories. You have atheletes that are deemed athletic for various reasons, acceleration and vetrical leap are two, but there is agility, foot speed, hand speed, hand eye coordinatino, foot eye coordination, vision, strength, endurance, balance and various types of physical improvisations (plus more I am forgetting I am sure). Brock's athleticism involves some of those categories, I just didn't think it involved enough. I don't have an algorithm to solve this answer, it's pure opinion based. But it is my opinion.

Dude, he did this when he was 30 when the other guys do it at their athletic peak in their early 20s.

That's why he got a tryout despite never playing football. That doesn't happen unless you are an unreal athlete

 

[kflo]

.. Would never ever sign with any Org for a below minimum wage of 8,000plus 8,000 . Thee months of training = 500 hrs of work .s0 before training fees you might make 30 bux per hr if you win. Scab labor. at the end of the day UFC is a monopoly and because of the business model it sold for billions

Imagine if conor had that mentality. Or *insert actor name here*.

They are not a monopoly...

 

[Maiji]

It's a D level sport full of unathletic bums that are content with making 8k/8k for getting punched in the face.

even the champions make pennies compared to boxing

Stipe made 600k for his last fight against ngannou while boxer Anthony Joshua made 10 million for defending his title against a bum


LOL

To define an athlete by income makes as much sense as defining a person by their race! One could argue MMA fighters don’t make the $ other sports do so why go into MMA but to define A level athletes by salary is just plain stupid.

 

[kflo]

But the Sherdoggers who identify with the owner class love seeing guys working for peanuts! Seeing that gives them more joy than seeing great fights!

I haven’t seen anyone take joy in it. It is what it is. Many who complain about pay stream cards and complain about how shitty they are and want half the roster cut.

 

[L.T.]

Shertards idea of A level athlete.

They are.. that's why they make more money than anyone on the field besides the quarterback. Not combine measurables cept the bench, but they are Paid for a reason. They are extremely valuable and rare. Who wins the line, wins the game. Usually.

 

[linch]

Saquon Barkley everybody. dude is a beast.

Height: 6′ 0″
Weight: 233 pounds
Hands: 9.5 inches
Arms: 31.375 inches
4.41 40-yard dash
41” Vertical
29 reps on bench, 225lbs



This is the type of athlete that the UFC or MMA will never have. Sad really.

This type of athlete would be gassed out after one round by someone like Cyril Asker.
Greg Hardy faded after a round.

 

[Mammothman]

I think Jones is a B+ level athlete

 

[POWER2]

It's a D level sport full of unathletic bums that are content with making 8k/8k for getting punched in the face.

even the champions make pennies compared to boxing

Stipe made 600k for his last fight against ngannou while boxer Anthony Joshua made 10 million for defending his title against a bum


LOL

You need to change your username, ASAP. F**got

 

[A.S. Deep]

So what objective criteria do you all define A-level athleticism?

For example, if a 4.5 second 40 yard dash is A-level, would a 4.51 second 40 be B-level?

Come on, about time we had some objective criteria for this bullshit.

 

[linch]

A-level athlete is an athlete who can excel in any sport. It is only a matter of choosing at a young age. A-level athletes tend to choose sports that will pay the most in the long run.

D-level athlete is an athlete who isn't good enough to compete in A-level paying sports so they choose lower paying sports where they can excel. A good example of a D-level athlete is Stipe Miocic.

He failed to make into major league Baseball, so he turned to MMA and became HW champion.

Let's not start with this nonsense again

 

[dissectingaorticaneurysm]

Name me a football player that can run the marathon under 2.5 hours. Name me a basketball player that can finish the tour de France.

Now shut the fuck up with this A level shit.

What's his best time for the ultra marathon? Is he any good at tennis? What's the most amount of backflips he can do off the vault in gymnastics? Can he take a solid punch or is his chin weak?

stop, you're embarrassing yourself. When people refer to "athleticism", they are assessing explosive power.

 

[ivantheterible]

Imagine if conor had that mentality. Or *insert actor name here*.

They are not a monopoly...

Just look at all the fighters that are not in the top 10 ..what do they make while supporting the cards . peanuts

 

[chuckleknuckle]

stop, you're embarrassing yourself. When people refer to "athleticism", they are assessing explosive power.

Athleticism means explosive power? Strange because when i studied sports science at uni, they defined it as a combination of the 4xS's. Strength, stamina, suppleness, and speed.

If marathon runners aren't athletes, go out and try running one this afternoon. I'm pretty sure 100% of people on here can run 100m. Almost no Sherdogger can run a marathon.

When you can explain why that is, then you'll have stopped embarrassing yourself.

Ps, the tour de France prize money is a couple of million plus sponsorship. Try winning it next year. I mean it's better pay than whatever shitty job you do, and it requires no athleticism.

Send me a postcard from the finishing line in Paris, champ.

 

[Luvhawky]

Dude, he did this when he was 30 when the other guys do it at their athletic peak in their early 20s.

That's why he got a tryout despite never playing football. That doesn't happen unless you are an unreal athlete

Wasn't he 27, generally considered your athletic prime?

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Wasn't he 27, generally considered your athletic prime?

I can't believe that shit was 15 years ago. You just blew my mind lol.

But anyway, it really varies by sport. Something like pro wrestling will not only break down your body, but will take years off your life. Despite it being a fake sport, the wear and tear is real.

I would say that your "physical prime" is around 22-25 for football.

People often get athletic prime confused with physical prime. Your athletic prime is usually when you still have most of your athleticism but you've also mastered the sport enough to hit peak performance. That's usually late 20's in most sports .

For something like sprinting, you hit your peak around 22.

Admittedly, bork was younger than I thought. But add a few years of wrasslin into the mix and realize that everyone else does their combine out of college when they are younger.

 

[Luvhawky]

I can't believe that shit was 15 years ago. You just blew my mind lol.

But anyway, it really varies by sport. Something like pro wrestling will not only break down your body, but will take years off your life. Despite it being a fake sport, the wear and tear is real.

I would say that your "physical prime" is around 22-25 for football.

People often get athletic prime confused with physical prime. Your athletic prime is usually when you still have most of your athleticism but you've also mastered the sport enough to hit peak performance. That's usually late 20's in most sports .

For something like sprinting, you hit your peak around 22.

Admittedly, bork was younger than I thought. But add a few years of wrasslin into the mix and realize that everyone else does their combine out of college when they are younger.

I think it depends on the position and what you are talking about. Different body parts go at different times. Legs are the first to go, that is why you see soccer players voluntarily retire earlier than any other sport and the same can be for RBs. But look how late lineman and lbs can play. Not to mention quarterbacks. Arm strength is basically the last to go. And while wear and tear has an effect on your body, I think the big impact is seen post retirement. Legs go in the 50's as opposed to 70's and such (edit: and by go, I mean really go. like you need B12 shots).

 

[Koro_11]

They are.. that's why they make more money than anyone on the field besides the quarterback. Not combine measurables cept the bench, but they are Paid for a reason. They are extremely valuable and rare. Who wins the line, wins the game. Usually.

Ya I get it, they can run through a wall, and how many other athletic challenges could they excel at?
How would they do at rock climbing? Or even running up a steep hill for an extended period of time? Or the hundred other athletic activities where just being big and able to move the weight around, is not nearly enough.

When someone tries to tell me that dude is more athletic than someone like George St Pierre just cause he makes more money, all I can do is shake my head.

 

[L.T.]

Ya I get it, they can run through a wall, and how many other athletic challenges could they excel at?
How would they do at rock climbing? Or even running up a steep hill for an extended period of time? Or the hundred other athletic activities where just being big and able to move the weight around, is not nearly enough.

When someone tries to tell me that dude is more athletic than someone like George St Pierre just cause he makes more money, all I can do is shake my head.

More physically rare. Some of those big boys actually are Freak athletes coaches will plug into the offensive playbook, they can run, catch, dive for balls in practice so coach has trick plays for some of those guys. Some can easily throw a ball 80 yards. I've seen it. They can kick field goals in practice. I've seen it. But to you're point you're right Yao Ming can't Ball. Shawn Bradley can't Ball. Even Shaq, he can ball actually.. lil bit, but motherfucker can't even shoot a free-throw with two-hands. But if you are absolutely massive, have any semblance of athletic ability and good coaching.. they are incredibly valuable to winning and are very rare to find. That's why they get Paid.

An exception Manute Bol, I wouldn't say his 7'7 145lb self could "ball".. literally too tall to really dribble in traffic. But dude made 6 Deep NBA 3's in one half. Why the coach allowed him to shoot one? I don't know. He must have been making it rain in practice. Bol bless.

 

[ChrisCross]

Until you idiots can come up with consistent definitions of A-level, B-level, C-level, etc., could you please just shut the fuck up?

A-Level means Asshole, B-Level - Bastard and C-Level means CXXT which is what the poster who started this forum is.