MMA Striking-ie hooks

Discussion in 'Standup Technique' started by Ko Specialist, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. Ko Specialist

    Ko Specialist Brown Belt

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    So I have noticed that the top dawgs in MMa have a similar punching technique. Fedor and Silva come in hard with left right hooks for the head. The punches almost coming with a sideways fish so the the two biggest knuckles connect. Igor was know to strike in this manner as well. I see


    Lydell,Franklin,Belfort and many other use a western boxing/kickboxing stance and punch style.

    Anyways, just curious if any of you are being taught to punch with th esilva/fedor hooks or even if that is an established style that s yet to surface in my vocabulary.

    maybe i wear a helmut and my name is mongo.....i dont know
     
  2. zaner

    zaner Banned Banned

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    I think this loopy stuff leaves a guy vulnerable to straight punches. There are guys that you mentioned that haven't been exploited......yet. However, hard punches from lots of different angles are hard to defend and that is why these guys have been successful. Guys that do really well with strikes in MMA seem to have some strange thing about their striking ie Chuck is loopy and sloppy looking, Fedor is loopy and fires from his waist, Mirko and Franklin are southpaws. Tim Silvia is like fighting a long distance phone call.
    These guys are hard to handle because you can't fing partners that fight like they do and no matter what you just cant get really prepared for their style.
    By the way Fedor's thumb is broken right? Watch what part of his fist he lands with and guess how he broke it. Another reason to reign in the loopy stuff just a touch.
     
  3. edgerrin32

    edgerrin32 No Edge No Life

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    chuck is just as loopy as silva and fedor.
     
  4. sanojela

    sanojela Green Belt

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    yea fedor does that reverse hammer punch with his thumb leading... u can actaully see him smashing his hand up on gary goodridge's head when the fought in pride
     
  5. JohnGalt

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    AA fights like a pro boxer and would tear ass against all of these guys in a pure punching fight...Did you notice Chuck in the Randy fight? Straight shots=KO...That looping stuff is good for supplementing power, but if you have heavy hands naturally it's better to fire shots straight ahead...

    And, like the above poster said, those looping hooks leave you very vulnerable against guys that don't just cover up...Wandy has been caught numerous times Igor got caught by Kondo in their fight and had to tie up...

    Good thread
     
  6. spydermonkey

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    I have used Fedor style loopy punches pretty effectively in sparring, sometimes just to clear my sparring partners hands for my next punch.
     
  7. DJGMuayThai

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    Hooks and uppercuts and overhands are your power punches..You come out aggressive and try to drop the guy with one..Jabs dont work because jabs are used to set up other punches which you cant do much of in MMA cause youll get taken down or eat a big hook
     
  8. Ko Specialist

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    interesting
     
  9. AngryGod

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    You need to have looping punches to get inside their guard.
    This isnt boxing, mma has small gloves and can actually get threw the holes.
     
  10. zaner

    zaner Banned Banned

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    Hooks are IMO the most versitile and potentially powerful punch according to physics. You have arm power, hip rotation, forward momentum all in spades for this punch. My hook is by far my most devastating punch BUT if you don't bunch loopy in with straight you aren't going to last against an Arlovski.
    Here is a guy that a few years ago was a Sambo champ. Period. But thanks to hard work with a good trainer that makes him punch straight and accurately, hes a badass striker. Watch him hit focus mitts when he is warming up for Cabbage and others. His trsainer works in slipping, ducking, footwork and straight punches with tight hooks in his focus mitt drills. THAT is a good coach with an effective style of striking.
     
  11. PariahCarey

    PariahCarey Purple Belt

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    Vitor stopped Silva with straight punches. It all dependes on the fighters and the fights.
     
  12. Domingo

    Domingo Black Belt in Sumu and Judu

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    Some of it varies on the gloves. You can use your gloves to deflect shots like someone can in boxing. There's also no real way to get someone off of you once you tie up. That has made a lot of MMA fighters have to adapt typical boxing styles a little bit. Someone can still work jabs and boxing combinations, but there's still always that risk of a wild shot slipping through a solid guard. You also still have takedowns and tie-ups to worry about.
    In terms of "looping" punches...they are power shots and they do tend to go around a straight guard. They leave you wide open to straight shots, too...but that shot's got to get there first and land, too. A lot of guys don't have that kind of handspeed and accuracy while still staying loose enough to stop a takedown or a kick.
     
  13. phenomfan1529

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    Totally agreed
     
  14. phenomfan1529

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    Haha! I knew someone was gonna bring that up
     
  15. graedy

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    Today, many MMartists still train traditional boxing and kicking like a pure Standup fighter. But im under the impression that slowly but surely a kind of MMa-standup evolves. So the arguments like "Fedor would get knocked out in a boxingmatch because his standup is shit" etc. dont make any sense. His looping punches work in mma. He is not a Boxer. And i dont think anyway, that he would use the same standup in a boxing match. The sport is still very young. Lets see how the MMa-standup will look ina few years.
     
  16. KarateDo

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    hooks = the win.
     

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