MMA has only had 2 or 3 evolutions I think 3 is max

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1st= 1 dimenional fighters arguably the best or top class in their chosen martial art.

2nd= 2 dimenional fighters. Mark Coleman? Randy couture? Maybe Chuck liddel could kick, punch, and amazing wrestling to stop all takedowns. Rarely used takedowns himself. I would put liddell more at 2.5. Rampage would be 2.5 I think.

3= 3 areas they excel in. Anderson Silva? Great bjj, could and did submit people. Lethal 2 dimenional striking kicks and punches great muay thai. Mostly counter striker but could vary.

4= 4 areas they do good in. Who fits this all i can think of is Jon Jones, mighty mouse, Fedor, and GSP.

Jones wrestling to stop people and take anyone down. Has taken own most people. Can submit on top and can ground and pound finish. Good striking with hands elbows and kicks.


Today most guys to me are clearly 2 dimenional. Few get to #3 and like 1 out of million is #4. I dont see anyone going past 4. Just not enough time in life and a lot depends on physical and your age.
 
When I get stoned I can see 12 dimensions
 
The same stuff wins and loses fights, the only real difference these days is training and cutting ~40 lbs. to make weight
 
When I see Anderson hit a blast double in the Octagon, THEN I'll call him 3 dimensional.

Anderson was one of the most glaring examples of a successful 2 dimensional fighter.
 
Still not reached final form yet
 
Mighty Mouse and TJ are probably the most complete fighters on the roster atm.
 
When I see Anderson hit a blast double in the Octagon, THEN I'll call him 3 dimensional.

Anderson was one of the most glaring examples of a successful 2 dimensional fighter.

Then chuck and others are 1.5... I gave him 3 because his striking was not 1 dimenional and his ground game via his jiu jitsu was good. But he is no Jon Jones. Compare Anderson striking to chuck, wanderlei or rampage and he made them look amateur.
 
Today most guys to me are clearly 2 dimenional. Few get to #3 and like 1 out of million is #4. I dont see anyone going past 4. Just not enough time in life and a lot depends on physical and your age.
There isn't even a 5th dimension to get to based on your descriptions, unless the 5th dimension is the never before seen chi channeling or psychic powers.
 
How much acid you drop to come up with this conclusion?
 
There's plenty of fighters who are good at everything they just stick with what they are best at.
 
Take MM out. He has no KO power and he’s only fought 1 or 2 guys with KO power. Therefore, he can’t be compared to the guys who 1) can actually KO people and 2) actually fights guys with KO power. Without the threat of being KO’d MM can fight completely different than bigger men by taking more risk.
 
Anderson was one of the most glaring examples of a successful 2 dimensional fighter.

I don't know about that. Silva proved that he was amazing at range (Griffin, Belfort and Okami), nasty in the clinch (Franklin and Bonnar), and very dangerous off his back (Lutter and Sonnen). :)
 
When I see Anderson hit a blast double in the Octagon, THEN I'll call him 3 dimensional.

Anderson was one of the most glaring examples of a successful 2 dimensional fighter.

There was an article in Sherdog talking about how good was his Thai Plum to takedown
 
Take MM out. He has no KO power and he’s only fought 1 or 2 guys with KO power. Therefore, he can’t be compared to the guys who 1) can actually KO people and 2) actually fights guys with KO power. Without the threat of being KO’d MM can fight completely different than bigger men by taking more risk.
I know right. That’s why he can get away with being such a sloppy brawler and take so many shots to the head during his fights.
 
Then chuck and others are 1.5... I gave him 3 because his striking was not 1 dimenional and his ground game via his jiu jitsu was good. But he is no Jon Jones. Compare Anderson striking to chuck, wanderlei or rampage and he made them look amateur.

I don't know about that. Silva proved that he was amazing at range (Griffin, Belfort and Okami), nasty in the clinch (Franklin and Bonnar), and very dangerous off his back (Lutter and Sonnen). :)

There was an article in Sherdog talking about how good was his Thai Plum to takedown

Wrestling is one of the dimensions of MMA. Anderson was not an overtly talented wrestler. Did he make a takedown or two happen with his excellent timing? Yes.

In my eyes, the dimensions of MMA are as follows: Striking, Wrestling (TDD, clinching, takedowns, control), and Grappling (control on the ground, submissions, sweeps). The Thai plum falls under striking to me, because 99% of the time, the user is trying to land knees and elbows off of it, not using it mainly for control.

Nobody is denying his badassery. But to claim that he is well rounded in ALL of MMA's facets is simply inaccurate. The blueprint to beat him had always been to outwrestle him.
 
We are entering the 4th Evolution of MMA with newfound techniques such as the standing hammerfist entering the fold.
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That's like, your opinion bud...also MM is the most well rounded.
 
Striking, grappling, clinch, submissions. What else is there to be more than four without breaking it down into even smaller sub-areas?
 

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