Mma fighter dies after charity event

[BarbellzNbacon]

I apologize, this was actually already posted in Worldwide MMA Discussion. Only reason I'm posting here is because if you go on the website I listed here, Tom Aspinal endorses this.

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MMA fighter died at the hospital shortly after an Ultra MMA charity event. They offer 8 WEEKS of mma training and throw you into the cage. This is wild to me. Check it out if you haven't already.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/fatal-fight-near-edmonton-prompts-calls-for-tougher-combat-rules-in-alberta-1.7396150

 

[Spath]

I apologize, this was actually already posted in Worldwide MMA Discussion. Only reason I'm posting here is because if you go on the website I listed here, Tom Aspinal endorses this.

Can you use MMA skills in a street fight? - Ultra MMA

Get in great shape, learn a new skill and raise money for Charity. Ultra MMA is a unique experience for beginners to learn the UKs fastest growing sport.

ultramma.com

MMA fighter died at the hospital shortly after an Ultra MMA charity event. They offer 8 WEEKS of mma training and throw you into the cage. This is wild to me. Check it out if you haven't already.

Did he get KO’d or what? Weight cut related? Illness?

 

[usernamee]

I hope he didn't die due to a severe weight cut for a fucking charity event in some type of "8 week take an mma fight class"

 

[mkess101]

The guy won the fight!!?? And then died right after. Something kinda doesn't add up. If he won, it's not like some dude was allowed to tee off on him and a stupid ref let him take a prolonged beating. The COD needs to be known before anyone should even think this is due to "lack of experience". He's fighting another guy who's a newb too, right?

Obviously I don't know this, but a preexisting condition of some kind seems likely. If they didn't do proper medical screening etc, that's a huge problem of course. But as far as in the cage...what exactly do they think made his lack of experience lead to his death if he won???

 

[shunyata]

Alberta has no MMA or boxing commission to regulate shit like this in the province.

That's the issue. So promoters can do whatever the hell they want if the city they're in doesn't say no.

There's no medical screening at all, and no regulation.

Some promoter put this nonsense together where novices with no previous experience trained for 2 hours per week for 8 weeks (they only had to go to HALF of those sessions to complete the program, so minimum 8 total hours of training) then have an amateur fight.

That shit should be criminal, but it isn't because Albert has no commission and no rules against this nonsense.

The guy won the fight!!?? And then died right after. Something kinda doesn't add up. If he won, it's not like some dude was allowed to tee off on him and a stupid ref let him take a prolonged beating. The COD needs to be known before anyone should even think this is due to "lack of experience". He's fighting another guy who's a newb too, right?

Obviously I don't know this, but a preexisting condition of some kind seems likely. If they didn't do proper medical screening etc, that's a huge problem of course. But as far as in the cage...what exactly do they think made his lack of experience lead to his death if he won???

I haven't seen the autopsy but with no commission and no medical clearance there's no chance of catching undiagnosed cardiac issues. There were some reports from people in the program that the guy was a personal trainer and looked like he was in good shape (in terms of muscularity) but would frequently have to quit mid session on those 1 hour classes due to being totally gassed out and looking like he was going to pass out. That's hearsay, but if true he might have had heart issues he never knew about.

The training level is still irresponsible too.

Anyone who's trained kickboxing / mma / bjj should be aware that sending a guy with 16 total hours of lifetime training into a smoker fight is fucking irresponsible.

At the end of the day, whether this death was preventable or not, Alberta needs to set up a commission to regulate pro and amateur mma & boxing in the province.

Alberta is making Texas look responsible right now.

 

[usernamee]

The guy won the fight!!?? And then died right after. Something kinda doesn't add up. If he won, it's not like some dude was allowed to tee off on him and a stupid ref let him take a prolonged beating. The COD needs to be known before anyone should even think this is due to "lack of experience". He's fighting another guy who's a newb too, right?

Obviously I don't know this, but a preexisting condition of some kind seems likely. If they didn't do proper medical screening etc, that's a huge problem of course. But as far as in the cage...what exactly do they think made his lack of experience lead to his death if he won???

oh so he won huh, underlying heart condition perhaps then

 

[ryun253]

 

[mkess101]

Alberta has no MMA or boxing commission to regulate shit like this in the province.

That's the issue. So promoters can do whatever the hell they want if the city they're in doesn't say no.

There's no medical screening at all, and no regulation.

Some promoter put this nonsense together where novices with no previous experience trained for 2 hours per week for 8 weeks (they only had to go to HALF of those sessions to complete the program, so minimum 8 total hours of training) then have an amateur fight.

That shit should be criminal, but it isn't because Albert has no commission and no rules against this nonsense.



I haven't seen the autopsy but with no commission and no medical clearance there's no chance of catching undiagnosed cardiac issues. The training level is still irresponsible too.

Anyone who's trained kickboxing / mma / bjj should be aware that sending a guy with 16 total hours of lifetime training into a smoker fight is fucking irresponsible.

That's the key yeah. If they're sending dudes in there without screening them etc that's negligent.

That said...I'm old AF and had 2 ammies way back forever ago. I had way more training before mine, but they didn't do shit as far as pre fight medicals. I did have to bring a note to one of them (maybe both? I only remember it for one though) from my own doctor stating I was in good health etc for liability but anyone could forge that easily.

I didn't take any punishment at all, the guys I fought were more green than me and couldn't grapple at all so it was 2 quick subs and I never got hit but looking back it was still reckless. I'd cut weight for grappling so that part wasn't foreign either, but it was really unregulated. You're spot on about the promoters too. The one card I was on was so sketchy LOL. My coach had to make all sorts of threats to get some of our guys paid after. Those type people don't give a fuck about physicals or that they're putting a kid in danger that maybe shouldn't be in there.