Mike Zambidis Weights Training

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I read this on his website and found it very interesting, here is an excerp.

"I firmly believe in the benefits for kickboxers of working out with weights I have a weight trainer and we do exercises according to a specific program: a lot of quick reps with low weights to strengthen and tone the muscles but not to bulk, because that would result in loss of speed."

LINK: http://www.ironmikezambidis.com/php/training.php

He uses low weight and does quick reps, has anyone ever heard of anyone else training this way? I just have always heard low weights high reps is bad but never anything about low weight quick reps. Anyways just thought it was interesting and wanted to share.




*Sorry if this is a repost or already mentioned somewhere but i used search function and went through 5 pages of posts on him and did not see anything...*
 
I dont put much thought in evaluating articles that use words like 'toning' and 'bulky muscles'. I seriously start questioning a persons credibility when I read those words in their articles or hear them say it.


So that's something along the lines of DE /plyometric training only done with higher reps for muscular endurance?
 
I agree with you Devilsson, the only part of this that really caught my eye is the fact that he is one of the most devastating strikers fighting today and yet he uses this unorthadoxed training method. After reading this article by him I found another about Mike Tyson which discusses his daily training method back in the 80's when he was such a powerful puncher and I found out that he actually did not believe in weight training either. His training involved something like 2000 situps, a ton of chin ups, etc. in fact the only weights he used were for shrugs.

Here is the link: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=276738&highlight=Tyson+training

I know alot of you are going to flame me for saying this but could these guys be on to something? (as far as not dedicating alot of time to weight lifting and using quick reps..) I also remembered that tyson was lifting lots of weights in a video I saw of him but then after rewatching it I notice it was the post prison tyson... Anywho thought I would throw this out there and see what you guys had to say.
 
Fact is that skill training is more important than weightlifting for hitting hard, thats just the wayh it is. For some that are genetically blessed with explosive muscle fibers and combines that with hard skill training it will be hard for someone less genetically gifted but with a better lifting program.

It doesnt nescesary mean that their weightlifting routine is best suited to develop powerfull punches, they might even be so powerful that it isnt even power that are highest on their priorities, it might be muscle conditioning or aerobic conditioning or whatever.

So its really hard to evaluate these small tidbits of the pros training, dont draw to deep conclusions about it, it is propably better to go to sucessfull trainers and look what they have to say since they have experience of working with athletes with different gifts and different things they are good at.
 
After you have reached a certain level of strength, strength training does little to increase your punching power. This is because you do not have to apply force to an heavy object in order to hit hard; you are only moving your own arm/body.

That said, I don't know if "toning" ones muscles has a big impact on fighting prowess either.
 
Maybe. But I am not aware of strength benefits of high and quick repetitions with low weight. The point of DE training is to apply maximal force to submaximal weight, so one does not do a lot of repetitions. Many repetitions with low weight would seem to enhance endurance, not strength.
 
takeahnase said:
After you have reached a certain level of strength, strength training does little to increase your punching power. This is because you do not have to apply force to an heavy object in order to hit hard; you are only moving your own arm/body.
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what should be this certain level of strength?? because i want to get there and then start training for explosiveness
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I was envisioning him taking like 25lb dumbbells and just shadow boxing (punching air) for like 3 minutes straight as fast as he can... i can imagine that would be a workout with some strength and endurance gains
 
I disagree....the more strength foundation you have the more ability you have to create/generate power/speed........

Sure some talented athletes can train like complete douschebags and still dominate their sports.....but that just speaks to the extent genetics play in one's success....

tyson was getting stronger as a result of his punching bags....he was using progressiely heavier/tougher bags as he got older...if he only applied that logic to his weight training imagine what could have been...
 
I think it's not a such a bad idea. That would train explosive endurance, which is certainly a trait strikers need. Seems like it wouldn't help strength too much, or limit explosiveness though...The problem is ONLY training that way.

That kind of work could make a decent finisher at the end of the glorious 5x5 routine.
 
Randy Couture trains with low weights and high explosive reps.
 
JustinB60 said:
I was envisioning him taking like 25lb dumbbells and just shadow boxing (punching air) for like 3 minutes straight as fast as he can... i can imagine that would be a workout with some strength and endurance gains
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That would destroy your shoulders and joints.
 
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