Michael jai white on Jon Jones kick

[HNIC215]

You don’t need to fight in the UFC to be a fighter lol

People in this thread act like Michael Jai White is an attention seeking wannabe. He’s like the black Jean-Claude Van Damme.

Also, damn near 60 now but I’ve seen him dedicated to martial arts since I was a young buck.

Numerous fighters vouch for him and you can easily watch his videos on YouTube to realize he understands the art of combat very well.

You also never see him at UFC events trying to seek attention or take credits for fighters wins like Steven Segal.

 

[Trabaho]

Uriah credits MJW for helping him perfect the kick that ended up upsetting Mousasi.

People just confuse confidence for arrogance. They want to belittle him, make him pretend to be smaller than he actually is.

To me that just comes off as insecurity, people have fragile egos and don't like someone who's confident in their ability.

Not everyone needs to be a silent, humble, quiet martial artist who just sits in the corner.

F him and you too. He literaly said he beat Jon Jones up in sparring in another video. He can do karate but has 0 fights in any competition but his point karate which is not a fight. Dude is a karate movie star. He does karate, he doesn't fight. He has delusional bullshido interviews. But I guess he and his fans have sherdog accounts too.

 

[AstralPanda]

F him and you too. He literaly said he beat Jon Jones up in sparring in another video. He can do karate but has 0 fights in any competition but his point karate which is not a fight. Dude is a karate movie star. He does karate, he doesn't fight. He has delusional bullshido interviews. But I guess he and his fans have sherdog accounts too.

Could definitely see someone like MJW out kicking Jones. He's been kicking for decades before Jones even began training.

If i had to guess, id imagine their sparring was predominantly a chess match of kicks and other unique techniques on the outside, where it wouldn't be surprising if MJW got the edge.

Jones himself said that MJW humbled him.

MJW basically repeated what Jones said, but also said if they kept sparring, Jones wouldve figured him out, or if Jones decided to wrestle, he would get manhandled.

Not seeing the issue here.

When it comes to pure martial arts and technique, MJW is a level above most mma guys, specifically with his kicks. If that weren't true, he would've been called out long ago.

Even Uriah said MJW is the reason for that kick against Mousasi, called him a genius several times.

Actual fighter opinions hold more weight than some random, butt hurt, emotional fans who are upset that the guy is a little boisterous.

 

[MotorCityCobra]

MJW would get folded by pretty much everyone on roster. He is close to 60. Similar to Rogan but even worse with grappling.

For a lifelong martial artist he sure is constantly wrong and constantly not aware of how fights set up.

 

[Krixes]

I love MJW movies but he really is going full Seagull lately.

 

[Trabaho]

Could definitely see someone like MJW out kicking Jones. He's been kicking for decades before Jones even began training.

If i had to guess, id imagine their sparring was predominantly a chess match of kicks and other unique techniques on the outside, where it wouldn't be surprising if MJW got the edge.

Jones himself said that MJW humbled him.

MJW basically repeated what Jones said, but also said if they kept sparring, Jones wouldve figured him out, or if Jones decided to wrestle, he would get manhandled.

Not seeing the issue here.

When it comes to pure martial arts and technique, MJW is a level above most mma guys, specifically with his kicks. If that weren't true, he would've been called out long ago.

Even Uriah said MJW is the reason for that kick against Mousasi, called him a genius several times.

Actual fighter opinions hold more weight than some random, butt hurt, emotional fans who are upset that the guy is a little boisterous.

There is not one video on the internet of him taking 1 punch doing a minute of any real sparring. He's just kicking the air and play sparring. Being a fighter is not having the perfect spinning back kick but actually fighting and sparring people hard.

Jon is just being nice to him and proping him for his ego.

He got 0 fights on record and you say he can beat Jones in the stand up. Next level delusion. You think if MJW got in the cage or ring with Jon Gustafson DC Stipe Thiago Shogun ect he beats them up in striking ? Dude he would get obliterated by any good amateur kickboxer who actually got fight exprience. This is fighting not point karate and movies.

 

[AstralPanda]

There is not one video on the internet of him taking 1 punch doing a minute of any real sparring. He's just kicking the air and play sparring. Being a fighter is not having the perfect spinning back kick but actually fighting and sparring people hard.

Jon is just being nice to him and proping him for his ego.

He got 0 fights on record and you say he can beat Jones in the stand up. Next level delusion. You think if MJW got in the cage or ring with Jon Gustafson DC Stipe Thiago Shogun ect he beats them up in striking ? Dude he would get obliterated by any good amateur kickboxer who actually got fight exprience. This is fighting not point karate and movies.

The contrast between random internet haters and actual fighters who've worked with him is something to behold.

It's incredible how people continue to double down in their derangement, believing themselves to know more than elite fighters and minds of the sport.

MJW is 57 years old, he's obviously not a fighter. However, he grew up in a time where MMA didn't exist or wasn't worth pursuing.

He competed in full contact kyokushin, has decades of martial arts experience, multiple black belts. Anyone worth their salt can just look at the way this guy moves, his technique and know he's legit.

MJW has some of the best kicks I've seen.
Even Rogan, a nationally ranked TKD champ said he has perfect technique.

Jones, Uriah, Bisping, Machida, Cerrone

These guys are all just being nice and pumping up his ego too by saying he's the real deal?

Everyone who's ever worked with him have said he's legit. That holds a lot more value than some random, overly emotional hater on a karate forum.

 

[-Sideways-]

"the black JCVD"

"similar to Rogan"

Michael Jai White wrecks both these guys blindfolded.

 

[AstralPanda]

There is not one video on the internet of him taking 1 punch doing a minute of any real sparring. He's just kicking the air and play sparring. Being a fighter is not having the perfect spinning back kick but actually fighting and sparring people hard.

Jon is just being nice to him and proping him for his ego.

He got 0 fights on record and you say he can beat Jones in the stand up. Next level delusion. You think if MJW got in the cage or ring with Jon Gustafson DC Stipe Thiago Shogun ect he beats them up in striking ? Dude he would get obliterated by any good amateur kickboxer who actually got fight exprience. This is fighting not point karate and movies.

Even Uriah Hall was known to be one of the better kickers in the ufc.

He praised him. Called him a genius. Gave him credit for fine tuning the kick that landed and upset mousasi.

He also said they sparred hard and didn't just play around like we seen on camera.

presumably that's a common story, most of them actually do spar hard with him, just not for the camera. I know bisping sparred hard with him.

If the guy couldn't throw down, then someone would've exposed him by now. Would've said he can't fight, just an actor, all show. The same shit you're saying. Nobody owes him anything.

Not only has nothing of the sort ever come out, everyone who's worked with him immediately says he's the real deal.


Even if we haven't seen what happened behind closed doors, word of mouth and stuff that travels through the grape vine holds a lot of credibility.

From my eye, you can tell just by the guy moves, his angles and in and out motion, his reactions even to strikes thrown when they're just playing

You can tell a lot just by someone's subtle reactions and timings. This is someone over 50 as well.

But not everyone has the eye, especially when you seem to suffer from a sort of derangement syndrome. Maybe leave the analysis to people who don't have the emotional control of a 15 year old girl.

 

[AstralPanda]

The guy is a bit boisterous. I get it. People don't like that shit.

But people are so invested in not liking the guy for talking too much that they're committed to proving hes actually a fraud, even though every elite fighter says the opposite.

Hate is a powerful drug boys. It's a story as old as time. Any time emotions come into the equation, objectivity goes out the window.

 

[FriskyRandy]

Hes trained with countless fighters

If he didn't have the skill to show for it, he would've been called out long ago.

But he's gotten nothing but praise. Even from Jon Jones.

I agree that this is strange. Guy seems like a clown, but respected.

 

[froggyluv]

Jon is just being nice to him and proping him for his ego.

This. Jones was phone filming MJW's little demonstrations like more of a fan of his movies then information gathering to "learn how to fight". Spider was accredited his front kick to Stephen Seagal.

 

[Intermission]

The OP has more fights than Michael Jai White

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

I don't need to see a 57 year old fighting

We've heard from elite fighters who've trained and sparred with him. Uriah, Machida, Cerrone, Jones, Bisping, Ngannou

All of them speak glowingly about his skills as a martial artist.

I can see with my own eyes that he has incredible technique.

That's enough for me. People acting like the guy isn't legit just come off as haters.

you must believe CM Punk is a good fighter too, UFC WW champion Tyron Woodley, Ben Askren, and Duke Roufus a guy who coached multiple world champions said CM Punk has legit skills too.

fighters bigging up ANYONE who isn't a fighter is like your mom saying you're handsome. they don't mean it, they just say it because they don't want to look like a douchebag.

 

[Intermission]

Steven Seagal, part two.

He's not there yet

 

[Intermission]

you can easily watch his videos on YouTube to realize he understands the art of combat very well.

 

[AstralPanda]

you must believe CM Punk is a good fighter too, UFC WW champion Tyron Woodley, Ben Askren, and Duke Roufus a guy who coached multiple world champions said CM Punk has legit skills too.

fighters bigging up ANYONE who isn't a fighter is like your mom saying you're handsome. they don't mean it, they just say it because they don't want to look like a douchebag.

Could also be that they have respect for martial arts, those whose who've dedicated their lives to it and who have amassed an impressive array of skills.

Comparing MJW to CM Punk is probably one of the worst takes I've heard this month, which is saying something.


Nobody in this sport owes MJW anything. If he was shit, had no skill, couldn't throw down in any capacity, then we would know it.

MMA above most systems, has little tolerance for bullshit or charlatans. If every elite fighter you've ever worked with can attest that you're the real deal, that holds a lot more weight than some random on a karate forum who obviously doesn't know the first thing about fighting or martial arts on any meaningful level.

Cerrone called out Tate, said he couldn't fight and his record was full of cans?

What reason would he have not to expose MJW?

You think that this entire group of fighters just conspired to paint an illusionary picture of this guys competency, just to be nice, not look like a douche and feed his ego.


It would never happen. Word of mouth and reputation goes very far in this game.

Not to mention our own eyes, anyone who knows anything can just look at the guy move, throw kicks, his reactions to strikes, timings and see he's legit on that alone.

Such a stupid conversation. It's actually incredible people are still trying to argue this guy is a fraud. Speaks volumes for who can actually be taken seriously here.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Fight Mike Perry you bitch ass bum.

 

[AstralPanda]

Fight Mike Perry you bitch ass bum.

That's the level of derangement here..lol

People legit convinced the guy ain't shit because he isn't fighting at 57.

Classic

 

[dog y]

MJW is as much of a fighter as Joe Rogan is. Make it happen, Dana.

MJW is a true HW. Little Rogan would need to roid much further to be about the size of his dong. Flaccid, that is.