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Ok you need to be right go ahead. Ill say no more I'm distorting reality great.
Michael Jai White has succumbed to telling fables on Vlad TV
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Throw sand? In a fight?
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bless his heart for trying
apparently, (again trying to accurately recollect,) ferguson asked him to be his (only) corner man
on brogan's podcast, bravo talked about the fight and cornering ferguson and how he, bravo, was just trying to help and was uninformed for how to serve as a helpful cornerman... he was humble n honest
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10th Planet. And yeah, he created a tiny little world of dudes doing BJJ the same way, but it didn't have the widespread revolution that Rogan tried to sell Wolf Tickets to for a decade. I also love the irony that Eddie made fun of Ken Shamrock back in the day for still sticking to leg locks - and Ken joked that Eddie could come by his gym and Ken could show him how effective they could be - and then the EBI blew up and became the place to go for submissions thanks to Danaher's leg lock revolution, which was an actual revolution. Oh, and I hated it every time that Rogan or Goldie would throw it to Eddie to score UFC fights in the 2000s. He tapped a Gracie, congrats to him, but I've never been the biggest Bravo fan, and I'm not surprised there are fighters who aren't either.
You could just admit that you didn't know/forgot that part. I know I'm right. You're struggling with needing to be right when you're not. I'm citing books and photographs and giving names, places, and dates. The facts are on my side. But I understand that now that we're dealing with facts, the conversation is no longer to your liking. That's too bad, but fair enough. I'll leave you to your preferred Bruce Lee. Trust me, I know a lot about preferred Bruce Lees: https://www.academia.edu/119944730/Legacies_of_the_Dragon_Bruce_Lee_between_Memory_and_Mythology.
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I like Eddie but no question hes a weirdo, most martial artists are or rather I should say we often just have weird beliefs which may or may not be obvious to our circle. Go sandman just dont tell me to spread my legs no more.
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You just go ahead, I have the separate BL site for petty stuff like this.
edit; sorry fella, i always get testy when I'm trying to get back in shape, fucks my nerves up something terrible, makes me useless.
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oof. fml. much obliged for the amendment and for expounding upon that tidbit of history. recall some of it (and mainly learned it via this forum over the years)
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Bob said things according to the day of the week most of them did really. Only jim kelly and louis Delgado gave unambiguous accounts of his talent. Its natural, you want to know how great muhammad ali was you might not want to ask Joe Frazier.
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My pleasure. It's always nice to talk to people who like facts
But yeah, Eddie's influence on Joe was particularly pronounced during Joe's early commentating years. He'd constantly talk about Eddie and 10th Planet, he'd jizz every time he got to say "mission control" or "the lockdown" on a broadcast, it was a lot. Joe was and still is a great MMA entry point for the uninitiated, but his "insider" commentary shit was always super cringe. Like how every time someone got to the crucifix position from side mount he'd say "We call this position the Salaverry." Literally nobody called it that, but he said that on the air half a dozen times - to the point where if you search "crucifix MMA" you'll get results that namedrop "The Salaverry" and even cite Joe, including Salaverry's fucking Wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Salaverry) - until Matt Hughes did it a few times and even Joe had to start calling it the crucifix. Not to mention, Salaverry wasn't even going for the technique. He was going for a topside triangle or reverse triangle and Semenov had no idea what to do off his back and just sat there getting blasted with elbows with his arm dangling and totally free to be removed from between Salaverry's legs. What Salaverry did to Semenov at UFC 37 and what Hughes did to Carlos Newton at UFC 38 are not the same. One was an accident, the other was a technique. Anyway, I'd always crack up my friends making fun of Joe on the TV because I guarantee Eddie called it that around the gym and Joe said it to sound like a real insider.
My favorite, though, is during GSP/Penn II when BJ used the "jailbreak" from the bottom in side mount to try to regain the guard. While he was doing that, GSP smashed him with a huge punch that bounced his head off the mat, and Joe literally didn't/couldn't see it. His BJ(J) bias was so big that he actually said on the mic how impressed he was that the whole crowd cheered because BJ got back to guard.
As we saw most embarrassingly with Ronda, Joe tends to let his obsessions with people cloud his brain and he spews kooky shit while drunk on their Kool-Aid. I don't watch much contemporary UFC, so I haven't listened to Joe in a while, but I feel like his Eddie obsession faded over time.
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My pleasure. It's always nice to talk to people who like facts
But yeah, Eddie's influence on Joe was particularly pronounced during Joe's early commentating years. He'd constantly talk about Eddie and 10th Planet, he'd jizz every time he got to say "mission control" or "the lockdown" on a broadcast, it was a lot. Joe was and still is a great MMA entry point for the uninitiated, but his "insider" commentary shit was always super cringe. Like how every time someone got to the crucifix position from side mount he'd say "We call this position the Salaverry." Literally nobody called it that, but he said that on the air half a dozen times - to the point where if you search "crucifix MMA" you'll get results that namedrop "The Salaverry" and even cite Joe, including Salaverry's fucking Wiki page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Salaverry) - until Matt Hughes did it a few times and even Joe had to start calling it the crucifix. Not to mention, Salaverry wasn't even going for the technique. He was going for a topside triangle or reverse triangle and Semenov had no idea what to do off his back and just sat there getting blasted with elbows with his arm dangling and totally free to be removed from between Salaverry's legs. What Salaverry did to Semenov at UFC 37 and what Hughes did to Carlos Newton at UFC 38 are not the same. One was an accident, the other was a technique. Anyway, I'd always crack up my friends making fun of Joe on the TV because I guarantee Eddie called it that around the gym and Joe said it to sound like a real insider.
My favorite, though, is during GSP/Penn II when BJ used the "jailbreak" from the bottom in side mount to try to regain the guard. While he was doing that, GSP smashed him with a huge punch that bounced his head off the mat, and Joe literally didn't/couldn't see it. His BJ(J) bias was so big that he actually said on the mic how impressed he was that the whole crowd cheered because BJ got back to guard.
As we saw most embarrassingly with Ronda, Joe tends to let his obsessions with people cloud his brain and he spews kooky shit while drunk on their Kool-Aid. I don't watch much contemporary UFC, so I haven't listened to Joe in a while, but I feel like his Eddie obsession faded over time.
those early days of brogan gargling about bravo and relating whatever back to him were hilarious. wasn't aware of the salaverry history, but funny as fook and consistent with brogan's "JUST ROLL W IT" invent sheet delivery. penn's mom prob applauded joe that night
for a guy, who seemingly espouses "open mindedness," "analytical/critical thinking" and so on, yeah, maybe, try to employ and exhibit some of that, joe. his tendency for mindless, fixated hype brings the lulz. joe prob got tired of eddie as not the "latest and greatest person to showoff" to the world
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Just watched some old Ali footage. His peak was in my opinion against Karl Mildenberger.
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Ya that's a bit to on the nose with regards to campy old kung fu westerns
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Great performance.
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Wtf is this thread about again?
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It's about if Michael Jai White fought Bruce Lee on a Quentin Tarrantino film, who would win? I think that was it lol
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When you respond to every thread with absolute nonsense it's hard to not make fun of you. Don't blame me because you ran back here after reddit banned you and are now content to make an ass of yourself.
Don't get emotional. Enough is enough.
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Michael Jai White being ignored in a thread about him lol. Dude can't even star in his own thread in a karate forum so he has to make up street fighting stories.
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Everybody is different, but the combination of those 4 particular drugs killing someone seems unlikely to me. Coke maybe, but the other three? Plenty of people do those substances without getting fucked in the head, in a lot of cases they (except coke) help them mellow out. Saying weed killed Bruce Lee is something out of the anti drug PSAs from the 90s lol
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It did to me too, but with all else about his strange death, that is the best option, Len Bias died after trying coke just one time. there was a lady who died similarly to Bruce, a singer, Nicolette Larson, who died of cerebral edema, same thing as Bruce "officially" and it sounded like she had liver problems. That lady runner, gorgeous woman, .......,,,,,,Flo Jo, died of an epileptic fit (bruce had seizure's during his last days, including his final one) and people wondered if Florence's PED use may have had something to do with it.
It's still a mystery though, I just say the drugs make things perhaps slightly clearer and give us the best reason we have that he died. Street drugs have taken out a lot of our icons and prescription pills have too.
You have to look at the other reasons though to see just how ridiculous some of them are and see my logic, triads, murder, poisoning, a family curse. I do believe a curse is possible, as an Indian who's had relatives who've seen such things, and I do believe in the unseen but I'd believe on what we do know before any of that.
The authorities knew about the some of the drug use at least, initially, they knew about the marijuana, it sounds like they didn't look for anything else and Hong Kong really didn't have a huge drug trade in those days from what I know. Had Bruce been caught getting that stuff in the mail, he would have been in legit hot water. Speculation over on the Bruce Lee site is that Bruce may have been a dealer, he was a star in his last days but he wasn't yet rich. It looks like Linda went along with all of it according to her letters and also her appearance, they both were emaciated around the time Bruce died. She later try to say he was on some ridiculous diet of an apple or carrot juice to cover up how bad bruce looked and he looked bad in the face in his last days, go look at pics from enter the dragon and look at pics from his first hong kong film in the 70's, he looks so much healthier and vibrant.
I used to think all the work had something to do with it but one thing the guys on the other site have pointed out was that Bruce really wasnt that busy making films, four films in 2-3 years isn't that insane, especially for low budget stuff like that. He had down time between shooting and also interestingly held up shooting on ETD for a week, everyone thought it was nerves, but, maybe he was trying to clean up a bit and get his head on straight.
As I've said, the drug letters just give us a little bit more than we had before but it's still mysterious and still a rabbit hole.
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ya, that's fucked up, like the b-star he is.
