Michael B. Jordan is set to play as Hercules in Disney's live action Hercules

[tastaylvr]

Same can be said for people in the Iberian peninsula and even Scandinavians have Anatolian Farmer DNA.

Really I'm trying to figure out what you think "white" means and where you are seeing these people take claim of Greek culture.

Why is there this constant theme of you being overly bitter towards Northern Europeans?

brother you are the one who said white

I said Greek people didn't consider anyone north of them to be part of civilization. That is everyone, not just Northern Euros.

Why are you trying to flip this on to me? You clearly stated "modern" terminology so we are using the modern meaning of white. It's like you forgot how this discussion even began.

You are trying to claim Ancient Greece as part of this umbrella it isn't lol. You wanted to use Indo-language which spans 50% of the globe and consists of a lot of people that are not considered "white". You then use the DNA markers that also consists of a lot of people that are not considered "white". How many more parameters do you want to set before you find what you want?

 

[tastaylvr]

You're joking right?

The dudes got statues and is depicted on all sorts of vases. He's the son of Zeus. Do you know what Zeus looks like? He's a white dude with a big ol white beard. Hercules (Herakles) is a deezed Greek, demi-god archer. He is more established than any character you think is established.

The myths were created and shared by Greeks. Greeks are not black, they are a shade of olive. It doesn't have to explicitly say "not-black"

Are we in kindergarten right now?

Zeus does not have a white or a big beard. What are you talking about?

ZEUS was the King of the Gods and the god of the sky, weather, law and order, destiny and fate, and kingship. He was depicted as a regal, mature man with a sturdy figure and dark beard. His usual attributes were a lightning bolt, a royal scepter and an eagle.

He is often described as a strong, imposing man with a regal body and long, often curly, hair. He usually had a short beard or scruff and carried his trusty thunderbolt at all times.

 

[mkess101]

MBJ is a good actor...at least a chance Disney doesn't make another forgettable snoozer.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Zeus does not have a white or a big beard. What are you talking about?

Your quote says he was depicted as a mature man. Mature men typically have white beards.

I'm also not splitting hairs over the color of his fucking beard. He lived an entire life cycle from when he was birthed, lived on crete as a younger and presumably with no beard up until adult-hood where he over threw his father.

Choose a point in his life time that corresponds with the beard color of your choosing and shut the fuck up.

The dudes Greek and Greeks are white.

 

[tastaylvr]

Your quote says he was depicted as a mature man. Mature men typically have white beards.

I'm also not splitting hairs over the color of his fucking beard. He lived an entire life cycle from when he was birthed, lived on crete as a younger and presumably with no beard up until adult-hood where he over threw his father.

Choose a point in his life time that corresponds with the beard color of your choosing and shut the fuck up.

The dudes Greek and Greeks are white.

Greeks are also Human. Most of Greek achievements were done by Men. Greeks also share most of their DNA with middle easterners. Do they have a claim too??

Should men claim Ancient Greece too? Do women have any claim?

What about humanity as a whole?

Is everyone below considered white? cmon now lol

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Greeks are also Human. Most of Greek achievements were done by Men. Greeks also share most of their DNA with middle easterners. Do they have a claim too??

Should men claim Ancient Greece too? Do women have any claim?

What about humanity as a whole?

Is everyone below considered white? cmon now lol

Huh? What are you going on about?

When you see a Greek person, you are looking at someone who is Caucasian.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but I'm assuming you are high right now.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

No way they'd do that after the Little Mermaid debacle.

 

[tastaylvr]

Huh? What are you going on about?

When you see a Greek person, you are looking at someone who is Caucasian.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but I'm assuming you are high right now.

The issue is that people like you don’t understand how to classify humans properly and keep using obsolete terminology that you don’t understand. The “Caucasian race” is obsolete now because we use dna and genetic markers to determine classifications. Greece is dominated by j1 which is closer to arabs than to anyone else in Europe. Most of you couldn’t even define what “white” is to begin with.

The Caucasian race was historically regarded as a biological taxon which, depending on which of the historical race classifications was being used, usually included ancient and modern populations from all or parts of Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa

 

[Via Heeto]

They already had live action Hercules with Kevin Sorbo.

he is no longer acknowledged by hollywood since he came out as a conservative. plus he is white and they can't have that

 

[avenue94]

- Maybe is because Michael B got no muscle mass to write home about?
How can such a frail jabrone play the Lion of Olympus?

Btw. Creed 3 sucked

The same way Sylvester Stallone can play a heavyweight boxer at maybe 5'9" and under 170. Angles, roids and suspension of disbelief.

Fancasting is usually terrible because the focus on pure looks, which tend to be far from the top of list when you're considering leading actors who can carry a franchise or movie.

 

[Corona]

Sam L Jackson already got a name for it

 

[avenue94]

blacks were extremely uncommon and Hercules was never depicted as black character, this is a product of western decay. Whites are being ethnically replaced and even their mythologies are being stolen by other peoples.

At what point in history did Greek people become "white"? And yeah, it's not like "white people" every stole Greek history or mythologies.

 

[ocfightfan]

At what point in history did Greek people become "white"? And yeah, it's not like "white people" every stole Greek history or mythologies.

How about always. Have you ever looked at Greek statues? And I'm not talking about the color. I'm talking about features of the face. They all have features that most resemble modern whites, not sub-saharan blacks or even stereotypical middle eastern features. It's true that many modern Greeks have absorbed certain ME characteristics because they were dominated by muslim rulers for so long.

And LOL at "stealing" Greek history or mythologies. As if we were talking about the copyrighted works of one individual. If you are looking for stolen histories then just look at Biden's plagiarism of his own life story from an Irish politician.

 

[tastaylvr]

How about always. Have you ever looked at Greek statues? And I'm not talking about the color. I'm talking about features of the face. They all have features that most resemble modern whites, not sub-saharan blacks or even stereotypical middle eastern features. It's true that many modern Greeks have absorbed certain ME characteristics because they were dominated by muslim rulers for so long.

And LOL at "stealing" Greek history or mythologies. As if we were talking about the copyrighted works of one individual. If you are looking for stolen histories then just look at Biden's plagiarism of his own life story from an Irish politician.

Lol

Can you please list these white features for me

Maybe we can win a Nobel peace prize with your skills

 

[avenue94]

How about always.

Greeks only recently became white in history.

Have you ever looked at Greek statues?

Yes, which are not meant to be literal representations of people.

They all have features that most resemble modern whites, not sub-saharan blacks or even stereotypical middle eastern features.

What are these features?

And LOL at "stealing" Greek history or mythologies. As if we were talking about the copyrighted works of one individual. If you are looking for stolen histories then just look at Biden's plagiarism of his own life story from an Irish politician.

I see you don't read the news much. The UK and Greece are currently having a diplomatic dispute because the Tories don't want to return stolen Greek artifacts. Literal theft of Greek history, and you're upset about a Disney adaptation of a musical that was already loosely based on a common heroes myth shared between nearly every culture.

 

[NoSmilez]

To be fair The Rock can match mediterranean colors (specially back to an era when people passed much more time under the sun, pics below it's literally my summer tan lol) and efforts were made with make up to give him a bit more greek look

It was'nt THAT terrible casting, they invested hard on DJ physical ability to cover the role and even if in some shots he looked indeed bit misplaced ethnic pick overall he nailed it
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This new Disney one will just be woke marketing white-guilt bullshit, they will have none of that good faith

Watching previous Disney products is pretty obvious there's no will of make casting fit but rather do it purposely "wrong" to show how modern woke they are today (as they're terrified current changing audience will judge them for the decades doing "movies for white people" in the past)

Like for many other society changes seem people in position of power are picking worst solutions lol

Where target should have been have minorities included more and this process to be smooth and quality oriented, making previous main audience to have a "welcome" mindset, companies like Disney or Netflix pandering to the most retarded people of the political spectrum and just riding controversy/outrage are doing their best to make it hated

I AGREE current entertainment industry should not keep white-centric style of 20-30 years ago, but what they're doing does nothing but create negativity


Going very OT
Same shit could be applied to some other fields like women rights, gender identity, racism and lot else
All these narcisistic retards pushing for a "clash" to be seen as revolution heroes, are doing nothing but made these things they in theory push for hated by previously moderate people that could have bought it if was'nt presented as a retarded crusade against them

Create an enemy harm the cause but feed their ego and brand, so that's what they do

I really have no issue. Acting should by merit. If the person can act then it would be their rendition of the character. It's like actors in a theatre show. Give everyone a shot at it. If Michael B. Jordan does a bad job then the movie will tank. Disney's Hercules isn't really something I would watch anyways. On the flip side, I wouldn't mind if Blade was white or Asian.

 

[S Class]

They should make a couple of the gods Chinese too to appease Chy-Nah

 

[Hog-train]

Actual Greek person checking in.

Don't give a fuck. This is a Disney movie so at the end of the day it can be as stupid as it wants to be.

Lol @ making Hercules black though. As if people want that when they are in the mood for ancient Greek lore.

I'm Korean-American - I think the race swap is stupid as hell and everyone is tired of it. We need a trans Hercules though.

 

[ShadowRun]

Nice well i hope 2 trans native american babies are in the next remake of romeo and juliet.

 

[Fake Doctor]

I mean, he's a fine actor, but they'd best stop with this stuff. If this were something that went in every direction I think people would be a bit more tolerant of it, but since it is absolutely a "recast the white guy but never the black" thing it rubs a lot of people the wrong way... And people are starting to react quite strongly to this stuff. Disney has been shitting the bed for a few releases now and they've basically redone Snow White at this point, so maybe a black Hercules ain't in their best interests? Maybe find some other way to up that ESG score.