Mexicans are going to takeover the UFC

[Venom]

Cejudo is American but full mexican racially

Racially you would say mestizo not Mexican.

 

[Yep]

Yes

Nope

 

[Mesos]

Invest in? What do you mean? Like, human trafficking?

In seriousness, though... I still say it's going to be another generation of MMA (2030?) to really break through the "grappling is homo" machismo. Especially from a dominant boxing culture.

The U.S. may have loved boxing for decades, but high schools across the country have also been wrestling for decades. It's a tough nut to crack. There has been headway because of some Mexican descent popular fighters (Cain, Pettis, etc.) but it seems Western Africa is making more headway than Mexico.

Africa has 3 champs but really though who else? There isnt a strong pipeline coming or a history of them building fighters but I think in time you will see some more guys from there for sure.

But if we are talking about just raw numbers there is way more Mexican fighter talent than African fighters. Hence why I am saying they are going to run the lighter divisons(have a bunch of fighters in top 10/some champs)
As you said the toughest thing will be the Wrestling portion but if a guy like Brandon can figure it without no real background in it. Then Its not a stretch to see other Mexican figuring it out. Mix that in with some natural boxing talent and you get some damn good fighters

 

[GolovKing]

Africa has 3 champs but really though who else? There isnt a strong pipeline coming or a history of them building fighters but I think in time you will see some more guys from there for sure.

But if we are talking about just raw numbers there is way more Mexican fighter talent than African fighters. Hence why I am saying they are going to run the lighter divisons(have a bunch of fighters in top 10/some champs)
As you said the toughest thing will be the Wrestling portion but if a guy like Brandon can figure it without no real background in it. Then Its not a stretch to see other Mexican figuring it out. Mix that in with some natural boxing talent and you get some damn good fighters

Africa has a way bigger population than Mexico. How does mexico have more fighter talent?

 

[Mesos]

Honestly, the Aztec thing is a bit played out, especially among more European Mexicans or Mexican-Americans who seem to boast the loudest about it.

I can understand if it's a guy who looks like Moreno with more obvious native characteristics.

/sidetrack lol

Pure European Mexicans are not really a thing lol. Majority of Mexicans have Native heritage, even the light skin looking ones with colored eyes. They have done genetic studies and most Mexicans are at least half Native American. In certain regions you have some that are more European but even they usually will have a good portion of Native ancestry as well (the Spanish had a strong fetish for Native women not even joking lol)

 

[Bangkok ready d1]

Americans can’t understand because America isn’t a real nation of united people. That’s why they still identify with their old races of Irish, German, etc

The hell are you talking about? Are you emplying that if everyone forgot about their anscestries they wouod all become the same race? The fuk

 

[Mesos]

Africa has a way bigger population than Mexico. How does mexico have more fighter talent?

Active fighters ya goof. Mexico has a ton of quality boxers that can be converted to mma.

 

[Bangkok ready d1]

Africa has a way bigger population than Mexico. How does mexico have more fighter talent?

I guess he was talking about right now... Don't know if that is true though. There is an african dude by card nowadays

 

[GolovKing]

I don't see mexico embracing the sport of MMA any time soon and the best boxers from Mexico are usually 135 and below. There's only 2 weight classes that fit that criteria in the UFC. I could see more Mexican Americans being elite in MMA than actual Mexicans. Even in boxing your starting to see a lot more successful Mexican Americans who typically compete at weight classes a bit higher

 

[GolovKing]

Active fighters ya goof. Mexico has a ton of quality boxers that can be converted to mma.

You act like it's so simple to just convince all the Mexican boxers to lay down their boxing gloves and start training MMA. You could say the same about any boxing country really. How about we convince all the black American boxers to stop boxing and start doing MMA. Or the Japanese, the Ukrainians, the Brits, etc

 

[Mesos]

I don't see mexico embracing the sport of MMA any time soon and the best boxers from Mexico are usually 135 and below. There's only 2 weight classes that fit that criteria in the UFC. I could see more Mexican Americans being elite in MMA than actual Mexicans. Even in boxing your starting to see a lot more successful Mexican Americans who typically compete at weight classes a bit higher

Lol you sure about that?

Heres Brandon with Mexican president a few weeks ago:

The legendary Julio Cesar Chavez:
“Yes, of course (I heard the news),” Chavez told MMA Junkie in Spanish. “I want to send him greetings. It gave me a lot of joy and I want to congratulate him publicly. He truly gave a great fight. I know of Brandon Moreno. He’s a kid with a lot of talents and abilities and, thanks to God, he achieved his dream.”
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2021/06/ufc-news-julio-cesar-chavez-brandon-moreno-mexico-history-joy

Anderson Silva fought in Mexico a few days ago too and got cheers. They knew who he was. They like mma, they just need a spark to push the talent for it to really get mega huge. The Brandon Moreno inspiration and those two UFC PI’s will take care of the rest

 

[Jose Beehive]

 

[epluribusunum]

Cejudo is American but full mexican racially

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Aztec Jaguar Warrior w/ obsidian weapon

 

[Bangkok ready d1]

Basically yeah. I mean blacks in America still call themselves African... America is not a real country

Well... You're wrong. What happens in america from my perspective as an outsider is that "an american ethnicity" is quite vague but still they do on theory form an ethnicity... People wouodn't become one same race if they forgot about where their anscestors come from though, cause people wouold still have eyes and notice that people are different dude

 

[Equinox Shadow]

Mexico is soccer/boxing

Soccer, boxing, migrant work force, Drug Cartels and supplying the U.S. with lots of produce. And some damn good cuisine. Love some Mexican and/or American Southwest inspired grub.

 

[HHJ]

What mexican is gonna beat No mercy Petr Yan??

 

[Pinyin]

you will see more Chinese current champions and top contenders before Mexican's.

Most of the upcoming talent in the UFC is going to be coming from One Championship.

 

[Venom]

Pure European Mexicans are not really a thing lol. Majority of Mexicans have Native heritage, even the light skin looking ones with colored eyes. They have done genetic studies and most Mexicans are at least half Native American. In certain regions you have some that are more European but even they usually will have a good portion of Native ancestry as well (the Spanish had a strong fetish for Native women not even joking lol)

Yeah all considered. I just look at some people I've met irl and phenotypically I can't distinguish them from people (their ancestor countries) I've seen in Europe. I mean I'm kinda skeptical when they emphasize one side, the native side hard when appearance wise I'm like....okay whatever....lol. But it's understandable.

A good American example might be Dana Loesch the NRA spokeslady. She's got quite a bit of native ancestry but also Western European and if she didn't tell anybody I don't know if people would ask.

 

[GolovKing]

Are there any African fighters from actual gyms in Africa though? All of them are immigrants. Brandon is interesting because he actually still lives and trains in Tijuana. Native talent is the goal here.

Doesn't really matter where you train at. Canelo does most of his training in the us nowadays but he's still Mexican, no one says otherwise. I don't think people try to question if Francis is a real African either, mainly people just have a problem with Usman and adesanya because people view them as too westernized to be real africans