Elections Melania Trump Backs Abortion

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fingercuffs said:
And saying women should be punished for abortion?
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You're going to have to share the whole quote, not just an excerpt or your interpretation if you want me to damn the Orange Ogre over it. I've heard him articulate his abortion position many times and it's quite Liberal. He aligns with Europe.
 
Whippy McGee said:
The FULL quote. I'm not playing games with the MSM. One of the links was that the quote was misleadingly used by the Left.
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"One of" Lol. So you don't remember the interview at the time and think people are falling for recent ads. How long have you been following American politics? You don't remember when it aired?
 
KOByFootStomp said:
This is straight up brainwashed cult member gibberish. Lay off The View and MSNBC. Stupid people are so susceptible to propaganda, maybe you should go take a couple junior college courses to get that flaccid noggin of yours going again.
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Serious question-

Do you what the meaning of cult is?

Seriously?
 
fingercuffs said:
"One of" Lol. So you don't remember the interview at the time and think people are falling for recent ads. How long have you been following American politics? You don't remember when it aired?
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Why is it so hard for you to produce the full quote?
 
Whippy McGee said:
You do realize Donald Trump is also in favor of the European standard of 15 weeks?
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I get that bud.

Boris Johnson did this same thing with Brexit, going from a pro-Euro guy to Eurosceptic overnight. He smelled the money and potential for power by doing a complete 180 and associating himself with Brexit. It worked. Brexit happened, many associated Johnson with that 'success', then he became PM.

Except you can't just be a weak fly-by-night leader of a major nation. Boris got exposed as not really having any concrete policies or ideas, his Brexit was a complete sham, and he was booted. It wasn't a success at all, just a Pyrrhic victory.

In a sense, hasn't Trump been exposed on this issue in the same manner? He doesn't believe in the pro-life movement, but he's forced it through by making certain appointments, and he's struggled with large groups of people ever since.

Trump should have never gone for it. If you don't believe in it, back yourself. Don't flip-flop. Don't pander. Lead, and if you don't think something is broken, don't fuck it up trying to fix it.
 
Trump doesn't care about abortion on a personal level. But functionally he was the anti-abortion president. He's the reason Roe got overturned. He either didn't care or was too stupid to understand what nominating religious conservatives to the Supreme Court would accomplish. He would do the same thing again too, so the things he is saying now really don't matter. Functionally he's the anti-abortion candidate. If he becomes president again he's gonna pass 99% of the things the Republicans can get to his desk, just like he did last time.
 


the pro-life party: if you're going to die from delivering a baby, then you die. boo hoo poor you, and tough shit for your kid once it's out of the womb too. if they want lunches at school then they can work for it.
 
Zazen said:
Historically no. Recently yes. This is the guy who holds a Bible and can’t recite a single verse. He’s a charlatan. He pretends he’s fighting for the Christian right which is the only reason he changed stances a few years back. Now the it’s backfiring he’s trying to change the messaging and flailing. Fortunately many people will remember him bragging about overturning roe v wade
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You can be pro-abortion without needing it to be mandated at a federal level. Different states can be pretty different from each other socially. I think it makes sense to have some decentralization when it comes to the gray areas.
 
idrankyourbeer said:


the pro-life party: if you're going to die from delivering a baby, then you die. boo hoo poor you, and tough shit for your kid once it's out of the womb too. if they want lunches at school then they can work for it.
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WOW, that is stupid.

Ultimately, if your state doesn't value your life at all, you've got to make a grown up decision to GTFO, right?
 
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