McGregor’s bottom game


Khabib was on the way to finish the kimura and Conor did the illegal knee. if you watch the video ( not yours ) Conor was fully on the ground and the only reason Conor was able to avoid it was the illegal knee. I am not lying but obviously you do by posting over and over the wrong video


So you're telling me that Conor's illegal knee prevented a kimura that per your own video literally had not even begun being cranked out yet? And that didn't even break Khabib's original grip pre-knee? And is in fact a whole 20 seconds before Khabib actually loses the kimura?

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By the way, you do realize that even here you can see that knee or not Khabib wasn't getting a kimura for the exact same reason he doesn't get it 20 seconds later when he does lose it: Conor's right arm is already wrapped around Khabib's torso preventing him from turning and stepping over him like Khabib needs to do to generate the proper leverage to complete it. Conor secured the correct defensive position against a kimura before the knee ever occurred, and it paid off later when it prevented Khabib from being able to fully crank him.

The kimura failed for the simple reason being that Conor correctly beat and blocked Khabib the position he needed to complete it. That's it.

Which is what makes it all so hilarious that people try and use this sequence as a supposed example of him being a bad grappler when it actually shows him outgrappling Khabib.
 
Lol yeah i admit it ... I literally typed it. He kneed him in the head at 1:37 when Khabib was securing the Kimura. in the clip you so graciously provided Conor right leg is on the fence with toes gripped into the goddam cage for leverage to also help in preventing the step over. Two different events with two different fouls.

So now toes in a fence can prevent a kimura which attacks someone's arm and not their feet?

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The kimura failed because Conor correctly used his right arm to block Khabib from being able to step over him and generate the leverage a kimura needs. It's really that simple.

You can even just look at Khabib's past fights against Johnson and Said where he won by kimura to see that Khabib just wasn't in the right position to complete it thanks to Conor's block.
 
So now toes in a fence can prevent a kimura which attacks someone's arm and not their feet?

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The kimura failed because Conor correctly used his right arm to block Khabib from being able to step over him and generate the leverage a kimura needs. It's really that simple.

You can even just look at Khabib's past fights against Johnson and Said where he won by kimura to see that Khabib just wasn't in the right position to complete it thanks to Conor's block.
So you gonna pretend Conor wasn't gripping the cage for leverage? He literally lifted himself off the ground. You can't even post a clip of the man not cheating
 
The funny part to top it off is him telling others to take a breath & that they'll be okay. It's like he's literally incapable of seeing the irony staring at him dead in the eyes.

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Yep my first post in the thread (this is my second) I'm told to take a breath, despite him posting essays over and over again defending a guys honour, who doesn't fucking know him??

Pathetic lol

Khabib whipped that ass
 
So you gonna pretend Conor wasn't gripping the cage for leverage? He literally lifted himself off the ground. You can't even post a clip of the man not cheating

Being upright like Conor was means that there was no ground below him to help naturally block his arm from twisting backwards. It's also pretty clearly Khabib who posted up here, but that's just as irrelevant to why the kimura failed as the illegal toes and knee was.

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It's Conor's right arm preventing the sub as Khabib needed to step over him to create the leverage a kimura requires and that's stopping that. That's it, and is the completely correct right defensive move.

As again was demonstrated when Khabib meanwhile successfully kimura'd Johnson and Said by being able to step over unlike against Conor.


 
So you're telling me that Conor's illegal knee prevented a kimura that per your own video literally had not even begun being cranked out yet? And that didn't even break Khabib's original grip pre-knee? And is in fact a whole 20 seconds before Khabib actually loses the kimura?

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By the way, you do realize that even here you can see that knee or not Khabib wasn't getting a kimura for the exact same reason he doesn't get it 20 seconds later when he does lose it: Conor's right arm is already wrapped around Khabib's torso preventing him from turning and stepping over him like Khabib needs to do to generate the proper leverage to complete it. Conor secured the correct defensive position against a kimura before the knee ever occurred, and it paid off later when it prevented Khabib from being able to fully crank him.

The kimura failed for the simple reason being that Conor correctly beat and blocked Khabib the position he needed to complete it. That's it.

Which is what makes it all so hilarious that people try and use this sequence as a supposed example of him being a bad grappler when it actually shows him outgrappling Khabib.
guess you are not trolling , obviously low IQ which makes sense since you are hugging on Conors balls all the time.
why do you think Conor did that illegal knee ? he knew he was very close to get f...ed and cheated with an illegal knee. do you understand , I am saying illegal knee ( this is something you repeat but dont understand that it is illegal ) and with that knee everything changed.
and if your IQ would be higher you would also understand that the illegal may knee also hurt Khabib which he was not expecting and made him lose the position.
just try to think about it , I know thinking is a hard work for you but just try once
 
guess you are not trolling , obviously low IQ which makes sense since you are hugging on Conors balls all the time.
why do you think Conor did that illegal knee ? he knew he was very close to get f...ed and cheated with an illegal knee. do you understand , I am saying illegal knee ( this is something you repeat but dont understand that it is illegal ) and with that knee everything changed.
and if your IQ would be higher you would also understand that the illegal may knee also hurt Khabib which he was not expecting and made him lose the position.
just try to think about it , I know thinking is a hard work for you but just try once

The fact you continue to lie about the knee causing Khabib to lose the position, which never happened, tells me you're the low IQ troll here.
 
he has a striker's bottom game. trained enough to be able to stay out of trouble off his back, but not enough to ever really do anything with it.
 
That's because Conor never cared about Mendes' grappling. When you attempt a flying knee against a grappler as your very first strike it's pretty clear you don't give a shit if he's going to take you down. Which Chad did off of it.

More importantly though, you had to say "at will" because that implies he wasn't able to keep him down. Which he couldn't. Conor escaped back to his feet every time except 1 where the round ended instead.



This isn't true. Mendes attempted the guillotine AFTER Conor had already escaped out from under him.

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It was a reasonable option once Conor had escaped to the headlock position as it gave him a chance to keep it on the ground where he could either hopefully submit Conor or reverse him so he was back on top. Either of which were better than Conor simply getting back to his feet from the headlock position they were in.



No idea why people try and say this when Conor had prepared for Aldo, who's completely different than Mendes, and had an injured knee on top of that. Let alone that Chad was his worst possible style matchup.

Of course it's impressive.



Hence the disconnect with you thinking it's so unreasonable that Conor is a black belt under most systems.
Conor doesn't have a black belt under his own coach. Unless I missed something.
 
Conor doesn't have a black belt under his own coach. Unless I missed something.

Yes, I'm aware neither Kavanaugh nor Danis have awarded him one that we know of. My point was 99% of other coaches would've by this point, whether that's due to accomplishment/demonstration of skill or time wise alone (he got his brown 9 years ago and has done at least 15 years overall).

Kavanaugh/Danis IMO are just waiting to give him it at a much higher standard due to Conor's significantly large profile, or only after he officially retires. Everybody knows if he gets subbed or outgrappled again afterwards the comments will be he shouldn't have been made a black even though that happens literally all the time to other black belts and doesn't indicate they shouldn't be blacks.

Regardless, Conor's a black belt level by most normal standards, regardless of if he hasn't been officially awarded one by Kavanaugh or Danis. And there's tons of other fighters like this.
 
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Yes, I'm aware neither Kavanaugh nor Danis have awarded him one that we know of. My point was 99% of other coaches would've by this point, whether that's due to accomplishment/demonstration of skill or time wise alone (he got his brown 9 years ago and has done at least 15 years overall).

Kavanaugh/Danis IMO are just waiting to give him it at a much higher standard due to Conor's significantly large profile, or only after he officially retires. Everybody knows if he gets subbed or outgrappled again afterwards the comments will be he shouldn't have been made a black even though that happens literally all the time to other black belts and doesn't indicate they shouldn't be blacks.

Regardless, Conor's a black belt level by most normal standards, regardless of if he hasn't been officially awarded one by Kavanaugh or Danis. And there's tons of other fighters like this.
Solid disagree. Conor isn't anywhere near a black belt level.
Just from my humble brown belt opinion.
 

boy , do us a favor and use your brain once and look at above video.
now, tell me what you see


I see:
  • A knee that’s 20 seconds before the kimura ever fails (1:37 vs 1:17)
  • Khabib maintaining his original grip throughout and not it breaking it like you keep lying about
  • Conor having his right arm correctly blocking Khabib from stepping over like he needs to for a proper kimura.
It’s an illegal knee. There’s no need to lie about it the way you guys do. The kimura failed because Conor correctly defended it positionally by blocking Khabib from being able to step over his head, and Khabib tried it anyways.

That’s it. It’s basic grappling technique, ironically in a thread discussing Conor’s defensive grappling. This is an example of him doing things well.
 
The two fights in which Conor spent significant time grappling an opponent; Chad had 5:17 minutes of control in 9:57 minutes fighting & Khabib had 12:15 minutes of control in 18:03 minutes of fighting... and every single submission attempt was attempted by his opponent.

Conor did not perform well on his back in either those bouts... at all.

The fact that he used a ridiculously illegal move, wasn't immediately disqualified, and still lost by submission is only more damning.
 
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Curious what opinions are out there on this:

We’ve seen McGregor spend a lot of his time on bottom against some of the more pressure heavy wrestlers like Khabib and really take a pounding. Also has a history of being choked from behind in the khabib and Diaz fight for instance.

His top game has always been there, and he finishes quickly when he gets to control distance and then hammer his opponents out.

But I wonder where he’s spending his time in preparation for his comeback.

Love to hear your takes.

A powerful bottom game player, he will often utilise the other participants momentum to increase the intensity of the encounter.

Prone to gassing out early but is usually reliable to take a finish to the upper part of his body, especially fond of throat / face finishes.

Has a tendency to become angry if not receiving of immediate affection after the encounter.
 
I see:
  • A knee that’s 20 seconds before the kimura ever fails (1:37 vs 1:17)
  • Khabib maintaining his original grip throughout and not it breaking it like you keep lying about
  • Conor having his right arm correctly blocking Khabib from stepping over like he needs to for a proper kimura.
It’s an illegal knee. There’s no need to lie about it the way you guys do. The kimura failed because Conor correctly defended it positionally by blocking Khabib from being able to step over his head, and Khabib tried it anyways.

That’s it. It’s basic grappling technique, ironically in a thread discussing Conor’s defensive grappling. This is an example of him doing things well.
He did avoid the kimura by an illegal knee,lol at saying that it was illegal but acting like it didnt effect the position.
You should also know that Conor is still holding the record of most cheating in a fight against Khabib by holding gloves,holding fences,holding Khabibs short and much more.
Dont be blind boy,all those cheating didnt help him and he tapped in the end.
Even with all cheating he was not able to avoid getting submitted and you blind guy call it a good way of grappling.
 
Bullshit essays? It's a pretty simple question of whether or not Khabib was even doing the kimura correctly against Conor by not steping over to generate leverage, because he couldn't as Conor was blocking him with his right arm, which you all keep getting butthurt over when it's pointed out that he wasn't.

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And you're going to look real fucking stupid in a second when I show you Khabib literally doing that step over correctly instead against Johnson and unsurprisingly getting the kimura sub:



As well as here against Said and once again getting the kimura sub when done properly:



Conor successfully blocked Khabib from doing the kimura properly by blocking him from advancing with his right arm, and Khabib tried it anyways. So it failed.

That's okay. Breath in, breath out. You'll be okay.

You do know that if Khabib advanced and stepped over Khabib would have lost position due to the fence facing him, while the Johnson bout the fence is behind him. Conor didn't do shit other then survive & move his hips , postured & squirmed to ease the leverage that Khabib had.
 
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