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McGregor’s bottom game

markg171 said:
It's way better than tons of fighters who never get theirs mentioned. He's escaped submissions, crucifixes, mounts, and tons of bad places from great grapplers like Khabib, Mendes, Dustin, Diaz, etc., and everybody just pretends they never happened.

Skillwise he'd have gotten his black belt years ago if he was anybody else.
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He cheated everytime Khabib grabbed him and spent a round under Mendez flat on his back crying to the ref.
 
i don't think his bottom game is necessarily impressive or anything that special he's good at defending. but his scramble game is crazy good. he held Khabib to a stalemate in rd 1 where guys like Poirer and Gaethje got completely dominated in the grappling. if he had better cardio i think he'd be much harder to takedown and hold down.
 
I'm pretty sure Dillon is on the bottom and Conor's on top, but hey maybe they switch around sometimes.
 
Dirty Frank said:
For sure. He was trying to gas Khabib out using his face, as per the great Dom Cruz
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No no. This motion that he took damage is a Misnomer. He lost badly but khabib did mot hurt him with strikes.
I think khabib intended to hurt him in that fight. He wanted it to last as long as possible. That neck crank was supposed to be torturous but I think he didn’t intend on a tap
 
legedema said:
Conor clearly hit Khabibs head with his knee , Khabib was very close to finish Conor with that Kimura , when Khabib was sure about the position he made a mistake and looked to Dana and said 'Hey Dana'' and he was trying to say some shit about Conor.
right at that point Conor hit him with the knee and Khabib lost the position.
but doesnt change the faqt that Khabib beat the shit out of Conor even Conor cheated that much
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Why do you continue lying even after the gif has been posted countless times showing this never happened?

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There was no illegal knee to escape the kimura. The knee was 30 seconds prior and played no part in the above escape. Khabib hadn't ever even attempted it yet, and he maintained his grip the entire time. You know, how he can attempt a kimura 30 seconds later.

All that actually happened is Khabib attempted a kimura without the proper position for one of stepping over Conor's head and so didn't have the leverage for it. And he couldn't do that because Conor's right arm as anybody can see is there preventing him from doing this.

You guys have to lie about a phantom illegal knee to explain the lack of submission here as you're trying to avoid the real answer simply being that Khabib made a rookie mistake of attempting submission before position, meanwhile Conor had secured the position needed and so won the sequence.

It's actually a sequence that shows good grappling on Conor's part and poor grappling on Khabib's.

The bullheadedness to continue to lie about things on the internet in 2023 is astounding. Like, you know video is available right?
 
markg171 said:
Even after knowingly getting caught lying about the knee and how it never caused him to escape Khabib's kimura, instead of admitting you lied and were wrong you just pivoted to another point entirely as though nothing happened. Nice dedication to the grift.

In reality though, that will never change that the kimura failed because Khabib made the amateur mistake of attempting a submission before he had the position to do so. A kimura works best when you can step over your opponent's head as that's where you'll have the best leverage to get the arm behind the head. Khabib couldn't do so... because Conor meanwhile made the correct move of using his right arm to prevent this. Yet Khabib tried anyways to crank the arm and so couldn't. get it back far enough for a tap.

Instead of admitting Khabib made a mistake and Conor made a good countermove move, you instead just lie about it and say an illegal knee from a completely different sequence 30 seconds earlier or toes in the fence stopped it as you don't actually give a shit, as does neither of any of your other haters who just want to collectively shill.

Position before submission. Conor understood that here while Khabib didn't and that's why the kimura failed.

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markg171 said:
Stellar counteranalysis for arguing why Khabib's actually not a poor grappler for attempting submission before position while correctly being blocked by Conor from having either.

You're ready for ADCC mate. I believe in you.
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Why would anyone attempt to provide a counter argument to Khabib being a poor grappler? Only someone with no clue about MMA or a delusional retarded Conor fan would say that. It’s not worth debating, especially with the likes of you.
 
weaselkenievil said:
Why would anyone attempt to provide a counter argument to Khabib being a poor grappler? Only someone with no clue about MMA or a delusional retarded Conor fan would say that. It’s not worth debating, especially with the likes of you.
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So you think he was correct to attempt a kimura without even having the proper position and leverage for one? That's your assertion of doing things correctly?

I mean, okay. It's not like we literally have the fact that the attempt failed as proof this was wrong.

Despite this all you just refuse to admit it was wrong. Your dedication to nuthugging Khabib's balls is truly impressive.
 
markg171 said:
So you think he was correct to attempt a kimura without even having the proper position and leverage for one? That's your assertion of doing things correctly?

I mean, okay. It's not like we literally have the fact that the attempt failed as proof this was wrong.

Despite this all you just refuse to admit it was wrong. Your dedication to nuthugging Khabib's balls is truly impressive.
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Do you think you're arguing with the same person? I haven't mentioned the kimura once, didn't say anything was done correctly or incorrectly. Dry your eyes, read my post again and respond.

You accusing someone else of impressive nuthugging? Are you taking the fucking piss?
 
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conors grappling is extremely under rated.

he surprised me with how well he defended khabibs ground game.

did way better than justin or dustin
 
fightfan70 said:
conors grappling is extremely under rated.

he surprised me with how well he defended khabibs ground game.

did way better than justin or dustin
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To me they are different fights and can't be compared. If x beats y in R1 but z beats y in R3 it doesn't mean x is better than z.

I agree though, he surprised me how well he defended it for a while. Conor is no mug on the ground, sure he's not great but his defensive ability is decent and that's what he needs, offensive grappling isn't his game.
 
I remember seeing sweeps and good defense in the past. I wonder if he retained or regressed.

I doubt he improved so many years away active competition.
 
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