Matt Brown explains why he doesn’t eliminate Jon Jones from GOAT conversation despite positive drug tests

Alpha_T83 said:
Just keep nuthugging jones while you still can.
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just keep living in your fairytale world sir

are you tryna say its all fake?
its literaly in his resume
 
orca said:
just keep living in your fairytale world sir

are you tryna say its all fake?
its literaly in his resume
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I'm trying to explain to you that perceptions change as time passes, and how the majority views Jones' accomplishments today will not be the same as how they perceive them 20-30 years from now.

But you are way beyond understanding that. You have reached the blind nuthugging level.
 
Everyone mysteriously changed after USADA in 2015. Jones just happened to be the biggest name that kept fighting after USADA came in. It's pretty funny everyone popped when USADA came in, then never popped again and usually fight once a year.

You had some anomalies like Bisping started beating everyone with one eye in late 30s as soon as it came in and became champ.

But when it comes to Jones, his main competition for GOAT either avoided USADA or lost every fight after it was in. He ironically has the best record with the PED testing.

MMA is a sport where everyone cuts every single pound they can to gain a slight edge. It's crazy that people think that PED usage wouldn't be considered by most. I watched that film Icarus and it blows my mind what they got away with for Olympics. UFC passing testing is probably a science at this point.
 
markg171 said:
In what possible way is Reyes not towards the end of Jones career, and against a high level opponent?

It's not his fault he was still champion fighting title challengers instead of the Zahabis of the world like his peers.

This is what I'm talking about. You guys invent insane standards for Jones and then don't apply them to his peers. It's super bad that Jones maybe possibly could've lost a 48-47 decision to a title challenger he also maybe possibly won, but getting KTFO or losing decisions to bums are perfectly fine for everybody else not named Jones.

You're not serious people. There's no objectivity to any of your standards.
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According to Jones stans, per Jones age he wasnt past prime.

IMO its a combo of age and number of fights. Jones is barley at 30 fights NOW. 32/33 is not old for LHW in and of itself.

32/33 with over 30 or 40 fights is old in mma. 32yrs old and 28 fights is on the cusp.

There seems to be a sharp drop off in performance at the 30 fight mark for most fighters regardless of age.

Meanwhile older guys can look great in late 30s early 40s if they have few fights
 
Right i’m sure it isn’t because he’s a drug cheat himself. That interview is just him trying to justify his own cheating.
 
I do not believe Nick or Nate DIaz did it. And several other fighters.
 
markg171 said:
You’re literally the retard blasting about steroids left and right but wiffling when Vitor tested positive against Jones while he passed his tests.

Couldn’t imagine being this dumb
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It doesn't matter one bit of difference that Jones passed his tests. He was on steroids anyway. Isn't that what you guys always parrot? So just because Jones didn't get caught doesn't mean he wasn't juicing.

Weird that you couldn't imagine being this dumb while making completely fucking retarded arguments.
 
Only Here for Attachments said:
USADA put it in writing twice that Jon Jones "is not a steroid cheat." It was also twice ruled in arbitration to be accidental ingestion with no evidence of performance enhancing by arbiters with decades of sports doping experience. But none of that is more important than the feelings of people who Jon has and continues to make upset, apparently!
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Ah, yes.

He just kept failing drug tests... but he's not a steroid cheat.

Just like Lance Armstrong failed a bunch of tests.... but he's not a steroid cheat.

Just like Vitor Belfort failed a bunch of tests... but he's not a steroid cheat.


It's weird how all the people who repeatedly get caught cheating "aren't cheating" in their fanboy eyes. Awww, to be young, naive and in love again. It's kinda touching really.

In a pretty gay way tho, tbh
 
FriskyRandy said:
Combat sports makes it worse. Youre now using PEDs to enhance yourself, all while trying to hurt another human being.

All your post in this thread are retarded.

If you fail a test, you cant be considered a goat.
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You’re somehow the straight up clown that deluded yourself to believe your inconsequential opinion is law. Little boy it is not. How dare you state this as law when every legend you perceive as GOAT says the opposite. Yet your punk ass will insult me due to your angst over the matter. You’re a clown
 
I get what he means, but I also feel like anyone caught should be made an example out of. Fighting automatically fucks people up, causes CTE and other issues, and fighters don't need to be taking something that makes it easier to hurt others and take MORE years off a fighters life, because they're punching and kicking that much harder and faster.
 
Epsteins Guard said:
Ah, yes.

He just kept failing drug tests... but he's not a steroid cheat.

Just like Lance Armstrong failed a bunch of tests.... but he's not a steroid cheat.

Just like Vitor Belfort failed a bunch of tests... but he's not a steroid cheat.


It's weird how all the people who repeatedly get caught cheating "aren't cheating" in their fanboy eyes. Awww, to be young, naive and in love again. It's kinda touching really.

In a pretty gay way tho, tbh
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Did USADA put out written statements for Lance Armstrong or Vitor?
 
Mind Mine said:
You’re somehow the straight up clown that deluded yourself to believe your inconsequential opinion is law. Little boy it is not. How dare you state this as law when every legend you perceive as GOAT says the opposite. Yet your punk ass will insult me due to your angst over the matter. You’re a clown
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Who the fuck mentioned law? What makes your retard opinion the right one? Looks like youre about to have to make a new account anyways. Dont let you let the door hit you on way out, pussy.
 
Epsteins Guard said:
It doesn't matter one bit of difference that Jones passed his tests. He was on steroids anyway. Isn't that what you guys always parrot? So just because Jones didn't get caught doesn't mean he wasn't juicing.

Weird that you couldn't imagine being this dumb while making completely fucking retarded arguments.
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Thank you for letting us all know you don’t actually care about the test results.
 
Lee Danger said:
The drug user condoned the other drug user.
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What weird self righteous posts

He stopped all that shit in his early 20's when he got serious about fighting

And I can't say for sure he didn't do steroids, but what would make anyone think so? It's not like his build is overly muscled or that it's ever changed appearance in his career.

He just looks like a normal dude. Always has.
 
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