News Matt Brown argues ‘if anybody is to blame for fighter pay, it’s the fighters"

[payton]

“It’s hard to expect the UFC to just be completely fair about it,”

“They’re running a business, and they run it very f*cking well. They’ve done an amazing job building their business. I think 99 percent of people in their shoes would be doing very similar to what they’re doing."

“Does that make it right? That’s up to each person to decide on their own. I think it’s just way more complex than people give it credit for.”

“If anybody is to blame for fighter pay, it’s the fighters and I’m one of them, at least formerly,”

“I never fought against the UFC about my pay"

“I’ve never heard of a business in my life where the employees — if you want to call us employees or even subcontractors — where they’re going to say, ‘I shouldn’t be paid more, they’re paying me a perfect amount of money.’ That is so unbelievable to me.”

Matt Brown argues ‘if anybody is to blame for fighter pay, it’s the fighters — and I’m one of them’

Matt Brown argues that the fighters have to take at least part of the blame when it comes to pay disparity in MMA compared to other major sports.

www.mmafighting.com

 

[RockyLockridge]

“I’ve never heard of a business in my life where the employees — if you want to call us employees or even subcontractors — where they’re going to say, ‘I shouldn’t be paid more, they’re paying me a perfect amount of money.’ That is so unbelievable to me.”

this is very much true, and if you never ask for more money or fight to get a higher pay you will never get it.

"but if you ask for a rise, it's no surprises they're giving none away...."

 

[Get To Da Choppa]

“It’s hard to expect the UFC to just be completely fair about it,”

“They’re running a business, and they run it very f*cking well. They’ve done an amazing job building their business. I think 99 percent of people in their shoes would be doing very similar to what they’re doing."

“Does that make it right? That’s up to each person to decide on their own. I think it’s just way more complex than people give it credit for.”

“If anybody is to blame for fighter pay, it’s the fighters and I’m one of them, at least formerly,”

“I never fought against the UFC about my pay"

“I’ve never heard of a business in my life where the employees — if you want to call us employees or even subcontractors — where they’re going to say, ‘I shouldn’t be paid more, they’re paying me a perfect amount of money.’ That is so unbelievable to me.”

Matt Brown argues ‘if anybody is to blame for fighter pay, it’s the fighters — and I’m one of them’

Matt Brown argues that the fighters have to take at least part of the blame when it comes to pay disparity in MMA compared to other major sports.

www.mmafighting.com

I'm not generally a fan of unions, but in this case a UFC fighters union is really needed, similar to other big sports leagues.

 

[ArtardFiesta]

the pay is much better then the days of 2K/2k

i'm not sure what the min is now? 12K/12K?

At the same time fighters have more options for money - social media, promotions, youtube/twitch channels, instructional dvs/apps, seminars. And fighters have retirement options now where coaching will bring in decent income, opening gyms etc

Basically being in the UFC the fighters have a life where they can escape the trap of 9-5 and NPCism . Once tehy are over that, the next phase and pay bumps will come.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Sounds like Matt's angling for a job

 

[RockyLockridge]

I'm not generally a fan of unions, but in this case a UFC fighters union is really needed, similar to other big sports leagues.

I'd be fine with an MMA union, but only if A lot of negotiating power is removed from fighters.

If they are to unionize they shouldn't get to be nearly as particular about who they fight. The promotion should have more weight in which match ups are made as long as union agrees the pay is fair.

no more of this I'm not fighting my friend bullshit. That's my only request if the union comes around. Steph Curry doesn't get to say, I'm not playing against my brother Seth. the schedule is made and you will adhere to it.

 

[TheMadHatter]

he may not be wrong. I know the fighters took a big hit in pay when they lost the ability to have sponsors on their shorts. that is where guys made most of their money.

 

[Sonny Qc]

How many fighters got fucked in history of fighting sports.

I'm Usually agaisnt Union, but they should have started one decades ago.

Problems is, top fighters are the one with leverage,
they are usually paid well enough
and they would be the losers if they had a Union.

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Sounds like Matt's angling for a job

looks like he wants to go into business with Sam Alvey.

 

[Sakuraba'sEar]

matt brown is going to replace cruz on commentary team now

 

[Dave Poodle]

I usually agree with a lot of points Matt makes but this is idiotic Stockholm Syndrome and the type of attitude that ensures nothing changes

 

[BJJ4Tone]

At the same time fighters have more options for money

I feel like most fighters I've heard from say the opposite. They can't even wear their sponsors in the Octagon anymore, which most said was their biggest source of income. More than their fight purses in the majority of cases.
But maybe they just need to get more creative. As you said, with social media, a lot of doors are opened.

 

[filthybliss]

He’s hoping Dana gives him more pay for the meat riding since he didn’t have the tools to be a star

 

[Paolo Delutis]

Pretty neutral and honest take.


Its what i would expect Matt Brown to say..

Hes not wrong and has first hand experience so his words have weight, that said ... The UFC for lower/mid tier guys leave alot to be desired as far as pay, even the big stars if you really think about it ...i mean how much money in total do you think Rousey, Conor,Jones ,Silva.GSP make the UFC... And how much of that came to those fighters...


It will never be 50/50 or even 60/40...but i believe it could be better then what it is now... Im not sure a union solves it ... Maybe just better business practices from fighters in general, for example if your a UFC fighter whos on Main cards regularly or even headlining shows...you should probably have your own legal team who does all your contracts.. at that point theirs no need to negotiate for yourself anymore..let your lawyers handle it and you charge the UFC for their time , through your pay.. fighters need to concentrate on training, staying healthy and improving . .not how much im getting paid...or am i being screwed here in this 6 fight deal.. there are lawyers for that..


GSP famously did this...and was significantly better off for it...

 

[StonedLemur]

I feel like most fighters I've heard from say the opposite. They can't even wear their sponsors in the Octagon anymore, which most said was their biggest source of income. More than their fight purses in the majority of cases.
But maybe they just need to get more creative. As you said, with social media, a lot of doors are opened.

Social media works for only a certain percentage of guys/girls tbf sir.

 

[nonoob]

Social medis works for only a certain percentage of guys/girls tbf sir.

But maybe they just need to get more creative. As you said, with social media, a lot of doors are opened.

You can bet the contracts cover that, except MAYBE for Onlyfanz.

 

[Corrado Soprano]

All that talk during the anti-trust UFC lawsuit of the fighters doing this for the future athletes and wanting to make a substantial change… Only to fold to the first offer and line their own pockets.

 

[Pechan]

Yep, an the managers.

 

[StonedLemur]

You can bet the contracts cover that, except MAYBE for Onlyfanz.

Can you elaborate sir?

 

[BEATDOWNS]

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