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Masvidal: "It’s not over for Ben"

I have plenty of friends that do shit i dont like, he stated he doesn't like the behavior. Hes literally on record saying hes not cool with it. How is it hypocritical,he doesnt shy away from the question? When i said take a jab, i meant he was responding to the question " Why should he get a title fight over Colby?"

edit: i have no idea why i keep calling that prick Cody, its not intentional.

So do you hate on people but excuse worse behavior in your friends? That's what Jorge is doing when he says he knows Colby is just trying to put food on the table because it's obviously the same for Askren. Given Colby, Jorge should have been thanking him for promoting the fight and making him money.

I was a fan of Masvidal since before Strikeforce when he took a short notice fight with Paul Daley and have never cared for the Chael, Conor, Colby and Askren type of shit-talking. I mostly ignore fighters on social media anyway. I liked that Masvidal seemed old school and no-nonsense. With his continued mocking and shit talk he was doing in the presser and interviews, I now think Jorge is doing exactly what he claims he despises. I just thought he'd be way more professional but yeah, i guess he's just marketing himself now like everybody else.
 
Can't be mad at Jorge or Ben. Ben was looking for paycheck but some guys don't play that shit. This is the risk shit talkers take. It's really a lot of stress and pressure they put on themselves but they sometimes have to take that chance just to get paid, unfortunately .

this, its just a high risk maneuver. it worked really well for conor - who backed up his shit talking a few times, but also got humiliated because of it, but still came back. and now is essentially retired selling whiskey.
 
It's odd he's so sensitive to trash talk and his best mate is Colby.

Khabib is also very sensitive to trash talk. There are some guys that dont' take it well. It's not smart to poke the bear.
 
So do you hate on people but excuse worse behavior in your friends? That's what Jorge is doing when he says he knows Colby is just trying to put food on the table because it's obviously the same for Askren. Given Colby, Jorge should have been thanking him for promoting the fight and making him money.

I was a fan of Masvidal since before Strikeforce when he took a short notice fight with Paul Daley and have never cared for the Chael, Conor, Colby and Askren type of shit-talking. I mostly ignore fighters on social media anyway. I liked that Masvidal seemed old school and no-nonsense. With his continued mocking and shit talk he was doing in the presser and interviews, I now think Jorge is doing exactly what he claims he despises. I just thought he'd be way more professional but yeah, i guess he's just marketing himself now like everybody else.
I honestly don't know what else to say about Masvidal and Colby, he publicly stated he doesnt he doesnt like it. It sounds to me that your expecting him to not train with him and discontinue a friendship. They're friends they're not fucking married.
What he dislikes is fake beefs and talking shit for no reason, even if Colby's doing it. Askren crossed some lines with him and he made it very clear he that he's disliked him since he met him years ago. Askren is the one who trolled him in the media, he's the one who bragged about getting the better of him in training which masvidal felt violated a code. I don't see how this is contradictory to what he's been saying, and I dont get why people are butthurt. He doesn't like him. If you got an issue with him slapping Leon around than fine. This is starting to get redundant, so I'm just gonna leave it at this.
 
I dunno, ben was talking shit but it's over now ... Masvidal needs to let it go he won the fight. If he's dumb enough to assault ben on the streets ben is one of those guys that would probably press charges.
 
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I think the point was they wanted to know what Askren said not what Jorge imagined he meant.

Jorge said what Askren said. I'm not sure which part is missing.
 
I dunno, ben was talking shit but it's over now ... Masvidal needs to let it go he won the fight. If he's dumb enough to assault ben on the streets ben is one of those guys that would probably press charges.

That's how I see it too. I was just disappointed in Jorge's reaction to all this. I thought he'd be way more professional and let the result do his talking for him. Instead he's showing that to him, class is just something he skipped in school. I think the way he acted directly after the fight and since then in interviews is exactly the behavior he claims to despise.
 
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Jorge said what Askren said. I'm not sure which part is missing.

Try doing what you said and read the OP again. There are no quotes by Askren where he talks about Jorge's manhood, culture or ethnicity. They're all Masvidal quotes where Jorge claims he knows what Askren really meant. I'm seriously asking. Maybe Askren did say things about cuban americans. I don't follow fighters on social media.

But again, Colby has been much, much worse in doing exactly that kind of thing yet Jorge continues playing grab ass with him and the only excuse anyone gives for that is Jorge has addressed that and said he doesn't like it. Apparently he can excuse it when it suits him as he excuses Colby saying he's just putting food on the table.
 
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wow this guy annoying

good thing we won't have to endure his hype for too long. easy fight for Usman or Woodley.
 
Good. Askren brought this on himself. No one will ever take him seriously again.
What? He got KO'd. It happens. If they matched up again I'd still think Ben had a good shot against Jorge. Same as most WWs on the planet, Ben has a path to victory.

Weird post, but as always, half the posters on Sherdog seem to hate fighters for whatever reason.
 
I like Ben...
but I thoroughly enjoyed Jorge's work last night

eg. calls the guy 'George' all the time

bit of humble pie for Ben:D

Mike Brown is calling him George right now on Ariel Helwani show.
 
Good, I agree, rub it into these guys faces like Ben, Conor and Colby when they lose. They deserve to be embarrassed for trying to pre emptively bully others.

What baffles me about this is Jorge and Colby are friends and Ben isn't anywhere close to as annoying as Colby is with this stuff. Ben's is quite light hearted and not personal. I heard nothing about the whole Masvidal religion, wife, kids, ethnicity etc... and I've been watching this fully through as it's gone along.

I guess I didn't hear all the things ben was saying during the leadup that pissed Masvidal off so much. did ben actually talk about his religion, wife, kids and ethnicity? or is jorge makin that shit up?

I think he makes a lot of things up, did you see the video in the hotel where Masvidal was saying Ben shit himself? The video then came out and the way Masvidal described it was nothing like how it was in that hotel hallway (the irony is Masvidal keeps saying this is what Ben does such as when they wrestled back in the day). The video showed Ben was telling it genuinely so I kinda believe Ben over the way things are as opposed to Masvidal.

You can watch the video here, even the person working at the hotel is telling Masvidal off saying he was trying to start something, he's also waking the same way he did towards Leon Edwards (I'm no fan of Edwards by any means!) but he did look aggressive here yet Ben was doing nothing. Can't blame Ben when he says he doesn't want to get punched by Masvidal outside the octagon (which shows he's just in this for the fight and business) because he gets paid in the octagon to fight and also he'd get into trouble outside of that too.

Forward to 4:23 in the video if you'd like to see.



This thing about Masvidal saying if he see's him in the store etc.. he's gonna slap him again, it's like "Really". He beat Ben fairly and in good style in the octagon, why talk about wanting to hit the man again? He's been in the game long enough to know how it works and I don't recall Ben really saying anything that much about Masvidal to be honest. I like Jorge but he seems to make a lot of things up.

He seems to try to intimidate him in the video above too and why has he been so angry? I don't really recall anything for him to be too angry about and even Ben was confused about this, whether people like Ben or not it's fair to say he's brought a lot to the UFC and people have been wanting to watch him, whichever side of the scale they're on in regards to him.

Also, I feel Ben's been thrown in at the deep end. Dana wanted him in the UFC and I think he just needs to learn from this and maybe work on his defence more as well as not shoot the way he did.

Masvidal did the exact same thing with Till at the beginning of that fight, soon as the fight started he ran straight in and kicked him in the nuts.
 
What baffles me about this is Jorge and Colby are friends and Ben isn't anywhere close to as annoying as Colby is with this stuff. Ben's is quite light hearted and not personal. I heard nothing about the whole Masvidal religion, wife, kids, ethnicity etc... and I've been watching this fully through as it's gone along.



I think he makes a lot of things up, did you see the video in the hotel where Masvidal was saying Ben shit himself? The video then came out and the way Masvidal described it was nothing like how it was in that hotel hallway (the irony is Masvidal keeps saying this is what Ben does such as when they wrestled back in the day). The video showed Ben was telling it genuinely so I kinda believe Ben over the way things are as opposed to Masvidal.

You can watch the video here, even the person working at the hotel is telling Masvidal off saying he was trying to start something, he's also waking the same way he did towards Leon Edwards (I'm no fan of Edwards by any means!) but he did look aggressive here yet Ben was doing nothing. Can't blame Ben when he says he doesn't want to get punched by Masvidal outside the octagon (which shows he's just in this for the fight and business) because he gets paid in the octagon to fight and also he'd get into trouble outside of that too.

Forward to 4:23 in the video if you'd like to see.



This thing about Masvidal saying if he see's him in the store etc.. he's gonna slap him again, it's like "Really". He beat Ben fairly and in good style in the octagon, why talk about wanting to hit the man again? He's been in the game long enough to know how it works and I don't recall Ben really saying anything that much about Masvidal to be honest. I like Jorge but he seems to make a lot of things up.

He seems to try to intimidate him in the video above too and why has he been so angry? I don't really recall anything for him to be too angry about and even Ben was confused about this, whether people like Ben or not it's fair to say he's brought a lot to the UFC and people have been wanting to watch him, whichever side of the scale they're on in regards to him.

Also, I feel Ben's been thrown in at the deep end. Dana wanted him in the UFC and I think he just needs to learn from this and maybe work on his defence more as well as not shoot the way he did.

Masvidal did the exact same thing with Till at the beginning of that fight, soon as the fight started he ran straight in and kicked him in the nuts.

When Masvidal said that about wife children and kids at the post fight presser he didn't say that was what Ben said specifically about him, what he is really saying between the lines is that he is against bullying (the fighter that does that is Conor). I agree with his message overall, against pre emptively bullying someone, especially if you're gonna fight against them, you will give them carte Blanche to get embarrassed afterwards.
 
Probably the same people going: "hurr durr talk shit get hit askren" are the same ones admiring conors "loyalty" to artem for throwin dolly at buses full of innocent people.
Yeah, then its called selling the fight.
 
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