Marvel / Comic book Guys. How powerful is the Silver Surfer? ( COMICS )

Streeter said:
Lol.. only anti Montitor or an Endless can beat Supes Prime. In DC or have a chance. Maybe Phoenix Force or above in Marvel.
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At least different universe Superman I can accept. It’s when the same one in the same universe does something that makes beyond zero sense
 
cincymma79 said:
This shit is why I hate comics sometimes. Like Batman being more than a flea to anyone superpowered. He’s got a plan for Superman, flash, etc…. They move faster than you can think. You can’t enact your plan before they did whatever they feel like doing, jerk off, take a nap, then come back. You can help with a plan but that’s about it. He had the omegabatqueef suit! Cool story bro. His face is exposed. Lex luthors whole head is out in his super suit. Then he gets thrown through a building? The fuck?
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Streeter said:
Lol.. only anti Montitor or an Endless can beat Supes Prime. In DC or have a chance. Maybe Phoenix Force or above in Marvel.
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He isn't even the strongest version of Superman. They have that stupid cosmic armor superman that can be described as a plot device that can break 4th wall. He sacrifices himself to beat the blah blah worst evil. He dies but is still able to write on his tombstone.
 
NoSmilez said:
It depends. Sometimes they wank him hard with the power cosmic and he is invincible. Other times he gets jumped by humans. I think his biggest L was he got jumped by these normie mexican dudes.
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Remember when Goku banged his shin on a coffee table and it hurt because he wasn't ready for it?

The difference between Superman and Surfer is that Surfer has to try to use the power cosmic while Supes always has his sunlight force field.
 
SummerStriker said:
Remember when Goku banged his shin on a coffee table and it hurt because he wasn't ready for it?

The difference between Superman and Surfer is that Surfer has to try to use the power cosmic while Supes always has his sunlight force field.
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Superman is as strong as what the writer decides to ass pull for him. He got raped by some communists with metal bars. They make up weird shit like he knows Kryptonian martial arts therefore his combat prowess is the same as batman. He gets bodied by old ass Alfred with a superhero serum.

This is the definition of the power cosmic.
Wielders of the Power Cosmic can become "one with the universe" through a degree of concentration, allowing them to "know almost everything", including the weaknesses in objects and opponents, events occurring on the opposite side of the galaxy, and even precognition of coming danger. The larger or closer the event, the less concentration is needed to see it.
 
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NoSmilez said:
He isn't even the strongest version of Superman. They have that stupid cosmic armor superman that can be described as a plot device that can break 4th wall. He sacrifices himself to beat the blah blah worst evil. He dies but is still able to write on his tombstone.
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The power of cheese n pepperoni

Also Superman is much better when nerfed down to like Superman an Lois level it makes for better stories.
 
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Streeter said:
The power of cheese n pepperoni

Also Superman is much better when nerfed down to like Superman a Lois level it makes for better stories.
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All star Superman is excellent. His power levels make zero goddamn sense in the cartoon but this speech is my favorite




I like the idea that he’s special, even among krytonians. He hasn’t learned how powerful he is because there’s nobody to show him so he has to learn on the job. This is actually being explored now, probably due to all the people saying how his feats don’t make sense.
 
Streeter said:
The power of cheese n pepperoni

Also Superman is much better when nerfed down to like Superman an Lois level it makes for better stories.
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I totally agree. The issue is that they aren't letting the IP die or slow down. They have to keep raising the stakes and it's getting stupid. You can't go back to regular stories. They even tried to reset the universe to fix it but it's back to the same BS. You can't go back to small stories when everyone around you is a multiversal threat.

Oh yea I just remembered that Silver Silver was going toe to toe with Rhino in the 90s. Rhino is a low tier Spiderman villain.
 
Tone C said:
Yea but Jesus was on their side...
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Nobody fucks with the Jesus!

As my brother Nerds have already pointed out, Silver Surfer is a true Heavyweight who should be able to walk off KO about 99% of the Marvel Universe. But in practice it depends entirely on who's writing him. Which is why you'll see him lose to people who don't possess a fraction of his power.
 
Anytime someone creates a character more powerful than Superman, they simply create a new, more powerful version of Superman, lol.
 
Most writers don't know how to write him because he can basically do anything. Dr. Strange is somewhat similar but magic has a lot more leeway for weaknesses and other bullshit. The character has done things that only gods on a cosmic scale may be able to do and has also been effected by lower tier power scale baloney. He was essentially written in his original appearance to be analogous to an archangel and Galactus was the old testament God, that's what Lee and Kirby have both mentioned.
There was a run of his title in the mid to late 90's where he was split in two and half of him was shunted to another universe, he eventually confronts the embodiment of that universe, defeats him, takes his place, then accidentally creates a new universe when expelling the power he took and his own energies. Shit like that on paper should be Infinity Gauntlet level power, but then in some other comic he will have trouble with some alien in a power suit that never appears again.
Usually the best stories the character has had are pretty far from writing him as a superhero, they are all more metaphysical and even spiritual where they can play with power and abilities and personality traits without having to worry about "can this guy beat this guy up?" type nonsense. They are somewhere between astro/meta/quantum/etc. physics, Lovecraft without the stress on horror, and religion and mythology.
I think it's best that he doesn't have a long running series but special miniseries' and only appears sporadically and somewhat rarely in other comics so they can both keep a sort of consistency and have writers be able to tell interesting stories while not being tethered to the superhero world. I haven't collected comics in almost 20 years but I still try to keep up with Silver Surfer and Dr. Strange through free comic sites just because they are more apt to have weird and interesting stories on a cosmic scale.
 
Joe_Armstrong said:
Did Silver Surfer ever get Captain Universe powers ?
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Yeah. There was some miniseries in the 2000's where he beats some alien tyrant that stole and absorbed the Captain Universe power then the Surfer absorbed the power into himself and bonded with it briefly before letting it go to a new host. There was also an event in 2021-2022 where the Captain Universe energy/Enigma Force was being blocked from entering the earth due to the god/creator of the symbiotes (Venom, Carnage, etc.) creating a forcefield of living darkness around the Earth so the Surfer bonded with the energies, broke through the barrier then let the energies go to its' intended host in Venom. Comics these days are usually garbage and I've pretty much given up on even keeping up with what's going on in them never mind reading them but that crossover was actually pretty good. Mind you I read what I did on a free comics site so I could keep up with it a bit without needing to buy anything.
 
Captain Universe ? I'm interested...
 
Kung Fu Kowboy said:
Watching the Rise of Silver Surfer. They made the guy a complete bum... Isn't he supposed to be a bad ass? This guy is basically as useless as Hawkeye... I bet the girl who had her arm eaten by a shark can out surf him...


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I think he's supposed to be on par with prime Thor. Maybe slightly above.
 
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