Mark Hamill Hates The Last Jedi

mime said:
I first read the title of the thread as matt hamill as was like why does any care what he thinks about star wars
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Yep, that!!

I came here to make a deaf joke.

And not back out of it after!
 
I just wrote my review of TLJ on IMDB:

This so called "sequel" feels like a joke parody of Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, which was criticized for being a rehash of the original Star Wars. This movie feels like it is overreacting to that criticism by parodying The Force Awakens - it blatantly copies visuals and recreates scenes from The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi and just flips or twists the result of each scene. At one point it gets so close to plagiarism that they have an extra break the fourth wall to taste the ground and tell us "This is not Hoth because it's a salt planet, not a snow planet". I literally laughed out loud at certain scenes with dialogue ripped straight from Return of the Jedi ("I feel the conflict in you", "Now...fulfill...your...DESSSTINNYYYYY!") My cousin sitting next to me in the theater laughed in reaction to my laughter.

Recreating scenes from the older movies and just tweaking or twisting the result of the scene is not original at all if you ask me. It gets so predictable and annoying when you have a "GOTCHA!" moment every 10 minutes. It's like the writer/director is trolling the audience.

The 1st draft of the film's screenplay was used....and it was mostly complete while Lucasfilm was making The Force Awakens. This is mind blowing that a major company would handle a billlion dollar franchise this way. Letting one director come in and just write his own thing while having no idea what the next film's director and writer will do to finish the trilogy. It's the polar opposite of what Marvel Studios did when they mapped out a 10 year plan for the MCU movies. They didn't have a detailed outline but they did have a broad one and stuck to it for the most part with minor adjustments (including Spider-man was not planned until Marvel made a deal with Sony in 2015). But back to Lucasfilm and their lack of a plan for this new trilogy....

What kind of business decision is this? Just letting some 40 year old guy come in write Luke to be as unlikable as possible, only to have a forced "redemption" arc before dying? They seriously didn't think that would anger a large group of fans??

They took an adventure fantasy franchise aimed at people of all ages and cultures....and turned it into slow space chase scene...like Mad Max Fury Road in space at 1 mile per hour with the story revolving around the rebels running out of fuel...it's even more boring on film than it sounds. Maybe a more apt title would have been Star Wars: The Last Gallon.

And on top of that the movie is insulting to the audience when it starts trying to preach to us about Western politics and social issues.....in an adventure escapist fun franchise that is supposed to entertain people of all ages from all cultures around the world?? Lucasfilm, what were you thinking?!

Disney, you gotta micromanage Lucasfilm more now because it's clear that Kathleen Kennedy doesn't know what she is doing and prioritizing pushing her agenda over quality filmmaking. On the other hand, Disney, you can let Marvel Studios continue to do their thing because Kevin Feige clearly knows what he's doing and has always had a vision for the MCU. Kennedy clearly doesn't. She's not even a Star Wars fan and has not once even talked about Star Wars in interviews other than mentioning how cute Porgs are or how cute BB8 is...or how "strong" the women in this film are.

The box office results of this film worldwide show that it is universally disliked. It got pulled from theaters in China after less than two weeks. A Chinese news article was written in which the writer talks about how Chinese viewers felt that the movie insulted their intelligence with how the characters make inexplicably stupid decisions.



In South Korea...The Force Awakens was a good start by raking in 24 million dollars (prior to that the highest grossing SW film in Korea was ROTS which grossed 10 million).....well, this sequel only grossed 1/3 of what The Force Awakens did in Korea (7.9 million..by comparison Avengers: Infinity War made 88.5 million in S. Korea).

In Thailand the movie was also generally hated by audiences. My Thai friend told me all about it and I am in Thailand as I write this review.

So the narrative in the media that the people who hate this film are mostly toxic, racist, misogynistic, white conservatives is just not true. People noticed that Spiderman Homecoming clearly had a left leaning political agenda when Peter Partker's high school is shown to be the most ethnically diverse place seen on film...more than a college brochure, the students all being Indian, Philipino, East Asian, black, Middle Eastern, Hispanic etc. but it didn't bother audiences because the movie was enjoyable. The Last Jedi was not enjoyable.


Did Disney even watch over the production of this film? Did anyone? How the script got green lit is baffling. Not one executive read the script and went "Wait a minute...maaaybe we shouldn't kill off Luke Skywalker like that" or "Wait a minute...maaybe we shouldn't have Luke even think about murdering his own nephew in his sleep"??

What do I like about the movie? Mark Hamill's performance is really good, though maybe because he was truly miserable and pissed off during filming out of anger at Rian Johnson's portrayal of Luke (go watch "50 times Mark Hamill tried to subtly warn us about The Last Jedi on youtube). The film is visually stunning and has great set pieces (which is partly why the plot holes go unnoticed by many people, in my opinion. I think the beautiful visuals hypnotized me on my first watch and it was on my 2nd viewing I realized how awful the movie is)..........I can't think of anything else I liked about the film.

The job of act 2 in a trilogy is to set up hooks for people to anticipate the final act.....this movie did nothing...nothing to set up the 3rd and final movie of this trilogy. It didn't give us new characters to care about except an Asian American stereotypical nerdy girl who looks like she is from our own galaxy...not a galaxy far far away. It didn't develop new plot threads that we are supposed to be excited to see resolved....it actually ends with a finality tone that makes the viewer feel like it's the end of this saga and setting up a future Star Wars Saga 10 or 20 years later with all new characters. The movie hit the reset button....not only did it hit the reset button....but it walked a hundred steps backwards after resetting everything to Empires vs. a tiny rebel group. JJ has a near impossible task ahead of him now.

It's honestly easier for JJ Abrams to wrap up the 9 part "Skywalker Saga" in a nice bow with Episode IX if he pretends The Last Jedi never happened. Let that sink in. It's crazy.

What a colossal disaster.
 
Eusung said:
I just wrote my review of TLJ on IMDB:

This so called "sequel" feels like a joke parody of Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, which was criticized for being a rehash of the original Star Wars. This movie feels like it is overreacting to that criticism by parodying The Force Awakens - it blatantly copies visuals and recreates scenes from The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi and just flips or twists the result of each scene. At one point it gets so close to plagiarism that they have an extra break the fourth wall to taste the ground and tell us "This is not Hoth because it's a salt planet, not a snow planet". I literally laughed out loud at certain scenes with dialogue ripped straight from Return of the Jedi ("I feel the conflict in you", "Now...fulfill...your...DESSSTINNYYYYY!") My cousin sitting next to me in the theater laughed in reaction to my laughter.

Recreating scenes from the older movies and just tweaking or twisting the result of the scene is not original at all if you ask me. It gets so predictable and annoying when you have a "GOTCHA!" moment every 10 minutes. It's like the writer/director is trolling the audience.

The 1st draft of the film's screenplay was used....and it was mostly complete while Lucasfilm was making The Force Awakens. This is mind blowing that a major company would handle a billlion dollar franchise this way. Letting one director come in and just write his own thing while having no idea what the next film's director and writer will do to finish the trilogy. It's the polar opposite of what Marvel Studios did when they mapped out a 10 year plan for the MCU movies. They didn't have a detailed outline but they did have a broad one and stuck to it for the most part with minor adjustments (including Spider-man was not planned until Marvel made a deal with Sony in 2015). But back to Lucasfilm and their lack of a plan for this new trilogy....

What kind of business decision is this? Just letting some 40 year old guy come in write Luke to be as unlikable as possible, only to have a forced "redemption" arc before dying? They seriously didn't think that would anger a large group of fans??

They took an adventure fantasy franchise aimed at people of all ages and cultures....and turned it into slow space chase scene...like Mad Max Fury Road in space at 1 mile per hour with the story revolving around the rebels running out of fuel...it's even more boring on film than it sounds. Maybe a more apt title would have been Star Wars: The Last Gallon.

And on top of that the movie is insulting to the audience when it starts trying to preach to us about Western politics and social issues.....in an adventure escapist fun franchise that is supposed to entertain people of all ages from all cultures around the world?? Lucasfilm, what were you thinking?!

Disney, you gotta micromanage Lucasfilm more now because it's clear that Kathleen Kennedy doesn't know what she is doing and prioritizing pushing her agenda over quality filmmaking. On the other hand, Disney, you can let Marvel Studios continue to do their thing because Kevin Feige clearly knows what he's doing and has always had a vision for the MCU. Kennedy clearly doesn't. She's not even a Star Wars fan and has not once even talked about Star Wars in interviews other than mentioning how cute Porgs are or how cute BB8 is...or how "strong" the women in this film are.

The box office results of this film worldwide show that it is universally disliked. It got pulled from theaters in China after less than two weeks. A Chinese news article was written in which the writer talks about how Chinese viewers felt that the movie insulted their intelligence with how the characters make inexplicably stupid decisions.



In South Korea...The Force Awakens was a good start by raking in 24 million dollars (prior to that the highest grossing SW film in Korea was ROTS which grossed 10 million).....well, this sequel only grossed 1/3 of what The Force Awakens did in Korea (7.9 million..by comparison Avengers: Infinity War made 88.5 million in S. Korea).

In Thailand the movie was also generally hated by audiences. My Thai friend told me all about it and I am in Thailand as I write this review.

So the narrative in the media that the people who hate this film are mostly toxic, racist, misogynistic, white conservatives is just not true. People noticed that Spiderman Homecoming clearly had a left leaning political agenda when Peter Partker's high school is shown to be the most ethnically diverse place seen on film...more than a college brochure, the students all being Indian, Philipino, East Asian, black, Middle Eastern, Hispanic etc. but it didn't bother audiences because the movie was enjoyable. The Last Jedi was not enjoyable.


Did Disney even watch over the production of this film? Did anyone? How the script got green lit is baffling. Not one executive read the script and went "Wait a minute...maaaybe we shouldn't kill off Luke Skywalker like that" or "Wait a minute...maaybe we shouldn't have Luke even think about murdering his own nephew in his sleep"??

What do I like about the movie? Mark Hamill's performance is really good, though maybe because he was truly miserable and pissed off during filming out of anger at Rian Johnson's portrayal of Luke (go watch "50 times Mark Hamill tried to subtly warn us about The Last Jedi on youtube). The film is visually stunning and has great set pieces (which is partly why the plot holes go unnoticed by many people, in my opinion. I think the beautiful visuals hypnotized me on my first watch and it was on my 2nd viewing I realized how awful the movie is)..........I can't think of anything else I liked about the film.

The job of act 2 in a trilogy is to set up hooks for people to anticipate the final act.....this movie did nothing...nothing to set up the 3rd and final movie of this trilogy. It didn't give us new characters to care about except an Asian American stereotypical nerdy girl who looks like she is from our own galaxy...not a galaxy far far away. It didn't develop new plot threads that we are supposed to be excited to see resolved....it actually ends with a finality tone that makes the viewer feel like it's the end of this saga and setting up a future Star Wars Saga 10 or 20 years later with all new characters. The movie hit the reset button....not only did it hit the reset button....but it walked a hundred steps backwards after resetting everything to Empires vs. a tiny rebel group. JJ has a near impossible task ahead of him now.

It's honestly easier for JJ Abrams to wrap up the 9 part "Skywalker Saga" in a nice bow with Episode IX if he pretends The Last Jedi never happened. Let that sink in. It's crazy.

What a colossal disaster.
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Daisy Ridley Hasn’t Gotten Much Work Since Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker

Recently, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker actor Daisy Ridley revealed she didn't have the easiest time finding roles after her breakout performance as Rey in the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Ridley started her career with small parts in British TV shows before landing the role of a lifetime in Rey, a 19-year-old orphan who learns the ways of the force. Rey became a fan favorite of the new trilogy, and Ridley's performance has also earned praise.

Since Ridley has been so focused on the Star Wars saga for the last several years, she hasn't had much time to take on other roles. However, she did take on a starring role in the Shakespeare adaption Ophelia, as well as a supporting part in Murder on the Orient Express. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker's release in late 2019 marked the end of the trilogy and seemed like the beginning of a new chapter in Ridley's career. However, the actor has confirmed she definitely did not have the Hollywood experience one would expect after Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker hit the big screen.

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-rise-skywalker-daisy-ridley-career-auditions/
 
SSgt Dickweed said:
Daisy Ridley Hasn’t Gotten Much Work Since Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker

Recently, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker actor Daisy Ridley revealed she didn't have the easiest time finding roles after her breakout performance as Rey in the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Ridley started her career with small parts in British TV shows before landing the role of a lifetime in Rey, a 19-year-old orphan who learns the ways of the force. Rey became a fan favorite of the new trilogy, and Ridley's performance has also earned praise.

Since Ridley has been so focused on the Star Wars saga for the last several years, she hasn't had much time to take on other roles. However, she did take on a starring role in the Shakespeare adaption Ophelia, as well as a supporting part in Murder on the Orient Express. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker's release in late 2019 marked the end of the trilogy and seemed like the beginning of a new chapter in Ridley's career. However, the actor has confirmed she definitely did not have the Hollywood experience one would expect after Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker hit the big screen.

https://screenrant.com/star-wars-rise-skywalker-daisy-ridley-career-auditions/
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Much like Mark Hamill himself.
 
Star Wars curse?

Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, James Earl Jones, Mark Hamill, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Adam Driver, Warwick Davis all did well following their respective appearances.

Natalie Portman and that plank of wood she starred against are the only 2 who’s careers didn’t do well following SW.

Try reading the SuperMan curse - all the people who died or had major misfortune as a result of being associated with the films.
 
Star Wars Curse was a a term coined back in the 80's when none of the principal cast except for Harrison Ford became greatly successful after the original trilogy.
 
ClubFoot said:
Star Wars curse?

Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, James Earl Jones, Mark Hamill, Liam Neeson, Ewan McGregor, Adam Driver, Warwick Davis all did well following their respective appearances.

Natalie Portman and that plank of wood she starred against are the only 2 who’s careers didn’t do well following SW.

Try reading the SuperMan curse - all the people who died or had major misfortune as a result of being associated with the films.
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Harrison Ford: Yes. We all know what he did after Star Wars.

Carrie Fisher: No. Her career went nowhere after Star Wars.

Mark Hamill. See: Carrie Fisher above.

James Earl Jones: Was simply a voice in the movies. Kind of hard to judge his career off of that.

Liam Neeson: Was already a star.

Ewan McGregor: See Liam Neeson above.

Warwick Davis: mehh. The roles he was going to get were limited by his stature.

Adam Driver: This guy sucks. How he gets any roles at all after Star Wars is a complete mystery to me.

Natalie Portman: What are you on? Her career has been very good. But, maybe it's just me, I already knew who she was long before she was ever cast in Star Wars.

Hayden Christensen: No. Off of a cliff doesn't begin to describe his career.
 
You obviously don’t know films my friend.

It is hard to top Star Wars but all are accomplished actors in their own right.

Your comments make me chuckle.

<{Heymansnicker}>

Harrison Ford: Yes. We all know what he did after Star Wars.

Carrie Fisher: https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0000402/filmotype/actress?ref_=m_nmfm_1

Mark Hamill: Probably the most loved Joker joint with Heath Ledger https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0000434/filmotype/actor?ref_=m_nmfm_1

James Earl Jones: A Hollywood living legend.

Liam Neeson: Was already a star.

Ewan McGregor: See Liam Neeson above.

Warwick Davis: https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0001116/filmotype/actor?ref_=m_nmfm_1

Adam Driver: Your one personal opinion clouding your judgement.

Natalie Portman: Her recent films as a leading lady have been commercial flops.
 
I loved the OT cast. But the ST should have been re casted and picked up maybe 5 years after ROJ.
 
ClubFoot said:
You obviously don’t know films my friend.

It is hard to top Star Wars but all are accomplished actors in their own right.

Your comments make me chuckle.

<{Heymansnicker}>

Harrison Ford: Yes. We all know what he did after Star Wars.

Carrie Fisher: https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0000402/filmotype/actress?ref_=m_nmfm_1

Mark Hamill: Probably the most loved Joker joint with Heath Ledger https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0000434/filmotype/actor?ref_=m_nmfm_1

James Earl Jones: A Hollywood living legend.

Liam Neeson: Was already a star.

Ewan McGregor: See Liam Neeson above.

Warwick Davis: https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0001116/filmotype/actor?ref_=m_nmfm_1

Adam Driver: Your one personal opinion clouding your judgement.

Natalie Portman: Her recent films as a leading lady have been commercial flops.
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I just noticed this reply, but your reading comprehension seems to be very low. I never said that actors from Star Wars didn't get work in Hollywood ever again, just that their careers didn't really go anywhere for the most part.

Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher went from being 'A list' celebrities because of Star wars, to doing voice acting and straight to video movies. Sure, they kept busy but hardly a step up in roles.

You simply cannot judge the career trajectory of James Earl Jones off of his voice acting role in Star Wars. What did he have, 20 lines of dialog over the course of 3 movies? He wasn't even an actor in the movies.

Neeson and MacGregor were already Hollywood stars before Star Wars. Star Wars didn't change that, so really them doing well after the movies doesn't apply. Natalie Portman is/was in the same boat. Whether her movies flopped or not wasn't the point. She continued to get leading roles after Star Wars.

Hayden Christensen is a terrible actor. He definitely fell into the Star Wars curse, and rightfully so.

Warwick Davis is a midget. His acting career was always going to be limited by this fact. He was never going to be a huge star. Yes, he got work in voice acting and limited roles.

Adam Driver was terrible in the 3 Star Wars sequels. As bad as Hayden Christensen was in the prequels. Is it his fault? Possibly not. The screen plays and writing for those movies was atrocious.

Harrison Ford became a major A list celebrity.

So out of all the actors that have had major roles in the Star Wars franchise, those that weren't already Hollywood stars before Star Wars, few have gone on to become major A list leading stars. Which was the point. Which you completely missed.
 
It seems like it’s become some kind of an “accepted fact” that Kathleen Kennedy has a feminist agenda because she wears “force is female” shirts and that kind of thing, but that’s all a smokescreen. Kennedy is a ruthless businesswomen, she is not an ideological feminist, not at all, not in any way shape or form.

Let me explain.

Disney employs thousands of women in sweatshops. These women are essentially slaves. They don’t get maternity leave. They don’t get health benefits. They don’t have HR departments. And they tend to be very young.

Kennedy is happy as a pig in shit with that situation. She doesn’t give a fuck about women or women’s rights. She doesn’t have any agenda except enhancing her own power and making money. Her “feminism” is 100% a self serving shield that she uses to hide Disney’s business practices and still look “progressive.”
 
Brandon Wilson said:
I just noticed this reply, but your reading comprehension seems to be very low. I never said that actors from Star Wars didn't get work in Hollywood ever again, just that their careers didn't really go anywhere for the most part.

Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher went from being 'A list' celebrities because of Star wars, to doing voice acting and straight to video movies. Sure, they kept busy but hardly a step up in roles.

You simply cannot judge the career trajectory of James Earl Jones off of his voice acting role in Star Wars. What did he have, 20 lines of dialog over the course of 3 movies? He wasn't even an actor in the movies.

Neeson and MacGregor were already Hollywood stars before Star Wars. Star Wars didn't change that, so really them doing well after the movies doesn't apply. Natalie Portman is/was in the same boat. Whether her movies flopped or not wasn't the point. She continued to get leading roles after Star Wars.

Hayden Christensen is a terrible actor. He definitely fell into the Star Wars curse, and rightfully so.

Warwick Davis is a midget. His acting career was always going to be limited by this fact. He was never going to be a huge star. Yes, he got work in voice acting and limited roles.

Adam Driver was terrible in the 3 Star Wars sequels. As bad as Hayden Christensen was in the prequels. Is it his fault? Possibly not. The screen plays and writing for those movies was atrocious.

Harrison Ford became a major A list celebrity.

So out of all the actors that have had major roles in the Star Wars franchise, those that weren't already Hollywood stars before Star Wars, few have gone on to become major A list leading stars. Which was the point. Which you completely missed.
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I past this now.
 
Aegon Spengler said:
It seems like it’s become some kind of an “accepted fact” that Kathleen Kennedy has a feminist agenda because she wears “force is female” shirts and that kind of thing, but that’s all a smokescreen. Kennedy is a ruthless businesswomen, she is not an ideological feminist, not at all, not in any way shape or form.

Let me explain.

Disney employs thousands of women in sweatshops. These women are essentially slaves. They don’t get maternity leave. They don’t get health benefits. They don’t have HR departments. And they tend to be very young.

Kennedy is happy as a pig in shit with that situation. She doesn’t give a fuck about women or women’s rights. She doesn’t have any agenda except enhancing her own power and making money. Her “feminism” is 100% a self serving shield that she uses to hide Disney’s business practices and still look “progressive.”
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She's still a cunt that allowed that progressivism make its way onto film where it wasn't wanted or needed.
 
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