Media Mario Bautista explains why Jose Aldo also to blame for lackluster UFC 307 fight

[Pechan]

I hate him so fucking much, I would make a point of not watching any of his fights, Don't care who his opponent is.

 

[CieloLuce]

As soon as his fights starts I am going to find reasons not to watch. So congrats, you did it.

 

[HP_Nut]

Aldo vs Volk
Aldo vs Merab

Both were also completely shit fights.

Volk outstruck Aldo more than 3 to 1. Most people believe Mario did nothing in rd 2 & 3. Volk winning the decision was not controversial, Mario winning the 3rd is hotly disputed

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Volk outstruck Aldo more than 3 to 1. Most people believe Mario did nothing in rd 2 & 3. Volk winning the decision was not controversial, Mario winning the 3rd is hotly disputed

I don't think Merab beating Aldo was all that controversial either. I thought Aldo only had an argument for winning round 1.

 

[Substance Abuse]

I don't blame him, I blame the judges for giving him that fight when according to the scoring criteria it's impossible to give him rounds 2 or 3.

No issue with people deciding to fight like that, the issue is when it's incorrectly scored as a win.

This is the answer.

 

[koa pomaikai]

Aldo needed to get off the cage.

 

[RockyLockridge]

He’s fighting an old, shopworn man at elevation.

Is it Aldo’s fault he didn’t get out of that position and lost? Yes.

Is it Bautista’s fault he used a terribly boring strategy to anti-fight and bore us all to death? Yes.

Dude made the devil’s bargain “win in exchange for not entertaining,” but this game is more circus than sport.

People care about fights and fighters for the violence they bring first and foremost, not the intelligent strategy they use to nullify an opponents game at the cost of boring the shit out of us.

He’s entitled to fight like that, just as we are entitled to hate it. If that’s how he is going to approach dangerous fights (with anti-fighting tactics) I don’t want to see him in big fights where he’ll “do what’s necessary to win, no matter how boring.”

I agree but the part where it's aldo's fault he didn't get out of position..... he wasn't in danger there was no real reason to get out of that position he was maintaining a position where he was safe and not taking damage, It only made sense for him to stay there.

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

I agree but the part where it's aldo's fault he didn't get out of position..... he wasn't in danger there was no real reason to get out of that position he was maintaining a position where he was safe and not taking damage, It only made sense for him to stay there.

There is reason to get out of there - it looks like you can’t do anything when you allow yourself to be held at length like that.

To Aldo’s credit he was tired AF because he’s old, fighting at elevation, and not on the super-supplements like other old guys likely are (OSP, Weidman, etc).

He did the best he could with what he’s got, younger fresher fighters have seen the blueprint to stall him out and give the impression they have him right where they want him (all while doing jack shit haha).

 

[PabloMEX]

Aldo hasn't been in barn burners since coming back, solid showings tho. Too busy drinking while this Bautista fight was on, but the solution is clear. Bring back PRIDE rules.

 

[Kwic]

At least he didn't ask for $50g's...

Now that you say it, I actually wish he did..
Would have been hilarious to see people even more pissed

 

[DoctorStoppage]

This guy doesn’t get it at all and nothing proves that more than when the ref separated them and he immediately shot into another failed, panic takedown.

 

[xhaydenx]

Mario isn't wrong at all.

Maybe the Bum of Rio needs to learn how to get out of the clinch.

 

[legcramp]

lmao Aldo at losing to Bautista at all...... retire already

 

[Lord Pyjamas]

Aldo can blame himsel for just chilling there.
A vet like that should know better to try to escape immediately.

That being said, Mario isn't doing himself any favors with a style like that.
Also, ref should have acted to separate them maybe at some point, but again, it's Aldo's fault for being content being pressed against the cage. And I'm a huge Aldo fan. It was frustrating to watch.

Aldo and Mousasi always frustrate me with that.
It is the right thing to do in a MMA fight without time limit but costs them the win prizefighting!

 

[nostradumbass]

Under no circumstances should getting outstruck and going 0-10 on TDs win you a fight. Hell, if you have a few failed TDs and eventually get one, I can see winning that round because you eventually got what you were trying for, but trying over and over to get a TD and never getting one means you completely failed in what you were attempting to do, and you couldn't strike with the guy or take the fight to the ground.

 

[Subline]

You can say Aldo is to blame for not removing any doubt to the judges, but Mario is certainly to blame for the lack of enjoyability in that fight. He was the one initiating these clinch encounters.

 

[ChangeIsComing]

The fight sucked, but Mario is correct. Aldo could not do anything, just like he couldn't vs Merab and instead chose to look at the ref complain, look at the crowd and raise his hands. I love Aldo but he has a bad habit of stalling and playing the crowd when he is losing instead of putting himself at risk trying to get out of those positions.

 

[ChangeIsComing]

If Aldo was so helpless then why couldn't Baustita do anything other than press him into the cage?

Because Aldo would not take any risk to get out of that position, if he had one of two things would have occurred. He either would have gotten out of the position or Mario would have improved it.

 

[maximus__]

Bautista was accused of stalling when he couldn’t get Aldo (32-9 MMA, 14-8 UFC) down, but the 31-year-old rising contender said UFC bantamweight champion Merab Dvalishvili did the same thing when he fought Aldo. Dvalishvili went 0-16 in his takedown attempts vs. Aldo but won the fight by unanimous decision.

“Merab did the same thing. He probably held him against the cage longer than I did, and now look at him. He’s the champ,” Bautista told MMA Junkie Radio. “If we’re actually talking about Aldo, he almost did a similar thing against ‘Chito’ (Vera).

“He started losing that first round, and then he takes ‘Chito’ down and stays on his back for the whole second round and the whole third round, and no one gave crap to Aldo about it. Even me, I’m not going to give crap to Aldo. It’s more on ‘Chito.’ Oh, ‘Chito’ can’t get this guy off his back.’ So that’s the thing: It’s just like a little double standard for some of these Hall of Famers and fan favorites.”

Bautista said he was surprised that Aldo never tried to break free when he had his back stacked against the cage. He thinks it’s on him to get busy, too.

“I just wanted him to keep on working,” Bautista explained. “I just wanted him to break out of the clinch, use that energy to get out, and then just kind of stay stuck to him. Just keep him working, working. I just didn’t really think he was going to, I don’t know, I guess just stay on the wall?

“I thought he was going to get out because that takes up some energy. There are points where I felt – yeah, he was defending the takedown, and maybe he could have circled off, but he just kind of chose to stay there and kind of wait a little bit. Yeah, I was holding him against the cage, but at the same time, I think he did have opportunities to circle off. It’s just he chose not to.”

Mario Bautista explains why Jose Aldo also to blame for lackluster UFC 307 fight

Mario Bautista believes he shouldn't be blamed entirely for his lackluster win over Jose Aldo at UFC 307. Bautista (15-2 MMA, 9-2 UFC) defeated Aldo by split decision in Saturday's main card at Salt Lake City – a performance that was heavily criticized

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My thoughts? This guy did not come to fight that night.

Well it was his showcase fight and he blew it. Nobody cares that he beat Aldo(he didn't) because he did nothing that entire last round.
Merab atleast threatened legit takedown at some points and threw some clinch strikes.

 

[muaythaibeast]

Yeah, there needs to be more oversight on bad judging. Like the judges that scored round 2 or 3 for Bautista should have to rewatch the fight and explain why they gave him either round and then be suspended until they are re-trained.

It's fair, but the 10 point system needs remodelling as well.
When we don't really have any clarity on what weighting to give effective striking vs grappling (I.e - what is a takedown worth vs a jab?) then you're always going to get unique interpretations of it.
Scoring the fight as a whole and making the criteria exclusively who caused the most damage, followed by showed the most intent to win the fight, would hopefully eliminate a lot of the 'takedown to lay in someone's guard/lean against someone against the fence bullshit' if they know it won't get points.