Media Mario Bautista explains why Jose Aldo also to blame for lackluster UFC 307 fight

NoBiasJustMMA said:
Yeah, should have been a clear 29-28 for Aldo. Octagon control doesn't trump effective striking.
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As it turns out, octagon control isn't even supposed to count at all unless:

Effective striking/grappling is dead even. (It wasn't - Bautista's face wore damage.)

AND effective aggressiveness is dead even. (It wasn't - Bautista did the exact opposite of what the rules say effective aggressiveness is.)

Judges literally go against the actual rules of the sport in these situations, yet never get fired and probably don't even get questioned, thus it never improves.
 
mangokush said:
Bautista did nothing wrong even though it was so boring to watch

He saw that Aldo is weak in the clinch and took advantage of it

Where was the pivots and footwork from Aldo to stay off the cage...Aldo is more to blame for allowing to be controlled against the cage
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He’s fighting an old, shopworn man at elevation.

Is it Aldo’s fault he didn’t get out of that position and lost? Yes.

Is it Bautista’s fault he used a terribly boring strategy to anti-fight and bore us all to death? Yes.

Dude made the devil’s bargain “win in exchange for not entertaining,” but this game is more circus than sport.

People care about fights and fighters for the violence they bring first and foremost, not the intelligent strategy they use to nullify an opponents game at the cost of boring the shit out of us.

He’s entitled to fight like that, just as we are entitled to hate it. If that’s how he is going to approach dangerous fights (with anti-fighting tactics) I don’t want to see him in big fights where he’ll “do what’s necessary to win, no matter how boring.”
 
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mangokush said:
Bautista did nothing wrong even though it was so boring to watch

He saw that Aldo is weak in the clinch and took advantage of it

Where was the pivots and footwork from Aldo to stay off the cage...Aldo is more to blame for allowing to be controlled against the cage
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I heard one podcaster theorizing that Aldo is so good at defending takedowns, but that he gets stuck in the mindset that he's "defending against takedowns" and takes too long to remember that he's supposed to be escaping the situation so he can initiate attacks.

Whatever it is, it's a fault and an exploitable habit. And I simply can't hate on a fighter for profiting from an opponent's flaw, especially against a guy who's still as much of a threat as Aldo is.

Doesn't mean I'll watch it, but I won't hate on it.
 
Stalling out the social security eligible Aldo, just awful.
 
see, Mario, the difference is - when Aldo had Chito's back, he was in position to lock up a RNC if he wanted at any time. there is a legitimate submission threat when someone's back is taken. because of that, refs wont separate fighters when this happens.

there is no threat of submission when you are holding someone against a wall in the fashion he was doing. the only threat you have to watch for is being taken down. Aldo couldve pivoted out over and over, but he was the one who actually wanted to fight, not Mario. holding your opponent does not take precedence over damage when it comes to scoring. Mario is lucky the judges were crap that night.

dude just should say "yeah sorry it was a shit fight, i did what i had to in order to win. i plan on coming back even better" and leave it at that. anything else Mario says will just be used against him. guy is gonna get booed for a long time.

(i imagine this is what Mario is thinking in his head)
"theyre not booing me! theyre saying Bootista! Bootista!"
 
He is right in that Jose should also be at fault for not trying to separate or be able to seperate. Having said that it’s a sport but it’s also entertainment and nobody is going to want to watch wall and stall no matter who you are. It’s the most boring part of mma and it’s not really fighting. It’s a strategy to hold a guy so he can’t do anything. Yes it’s effective in not letting the opponent not doing anything but in the same regard if you aren’t trying to strike consistently while holding the guy against the cage like Bautista was doing in not striking, then he isn’t fighting either. He did himself no favors with the fans or UFC in that fight. Yes it wa a win, but not a normal win it’s not going to help him in the future move up the ladder.
 
You'd like to hear some accountability out of the guy.

One judge gave Aldo the fight, so your strategy not only stunk up the joint.. but also you won a coin flip decision. Instead of learning from the experience he doubles down like it was a good game plan or something.

Keep it up bud. Good luck getting resigned for good pay fighting like that.
 
TCE said:
"It’s just like a little double standard for some of these Hall of Famers and fan favorites.”
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This is like 90% of it. Effective striking was a wash in Round 2 and Baustita was busier, more aggressive, and controlled the action.

But noone wants to see Aldo lose that way to a guy they've never heard of so they just refuse to see it.
 
Go back to the early prelims...
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I agree with some of what Mario says. However, I'm still not sure he won the fight -- scoring puts a premium on damage, and in the 3rd round, I'm not sure he had more damagfe than Aldo.
 
Cool, enjoy needing to win 10 more fights in the apex to get your title shot.
 
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