Many claim that most MMA fighters especially in the UFC are/were on some kind of PEDS, then...

[Doughie99]

Look at schwartzeneger, he’s like 80 and still going strong after roiding most of his life. It’s the unhealthy (overweight, diuretics,painkillers, drugs, alcohol) lifestyle and physical damage that lead to early death of people who roid, not the roiding itself unless they are way overdoing it to the point of organ damage (liver, heart).

Schwarzenegger is 74 and he has had extensive heart bypass surgery.

 

[Street Bishop]

Nah, you're just naive. Most fighters are on PEDS.

Lol. Which one of your boys got popped?

 

[rakeleaves]

They will have a shorter life expectancy but thats more due to the violent and damaging nature of the sport.

Roids don't necessarily shorten your lifespan. There are smart and actually beneficial ways of taking them. If you take a TON of them, you'll do some serious damage to your organs. Low doses of test as you get older, while technically roids, probably aren't going to hurt you and will actually improve your quality of life.

Bullshit. Any test is bad for you unless you have a severe hormonal imbalance, then the positives outweigh the detriments... but there will STILL be deteriments to your heart/arteries

 

[MyFavSport]

Drugs are bad mkay

 

[J-Pac]

Bullshit. Any test is bad for you unless you have a severe hormonal imbalance, then the positives outweigh the detriments... but there will STILL be deteriments to your heart/arteries

Would you rather be stallone's age and be withering away, or have a fucking 8-pack like Sly? If you're smart about it, it can 100% improve your quality of life. Sly isn't even the best example because he's done a ton of hardcore cycles back in the day and would probably have some lingering side effects from that hardcore use. Maybe he drops dead a year or two earlier than he otherwise would have, but he got decades of improved quality of living before that. Smart roid use/TRT isn't going to kill you. Watch some More Plates More Dates on youtube. Guys like Rogan do it moderately for a reason - you have way more energy, your muscle mass deteriorates WAY slower, and your overall quality of life is 10x better.

 

[lepsahekim]

Schwarzenegger is 74 and he has had extensive heart bypass surgery.

And I thought I was exaggerating his age. Drugs, alcohol, steaks and cigars is likely what killed his blood vessels and clogged his arteries, not the roids.

 

[Doughie99]

Would you rather be stallone's age and be withering away, or have a fucking 8-pack like Sly? If you're smart about it, it can 100% improve your quality of life. Sly isn't even the best example because he's done a ton of hardcore cycles back in the day and would probably have some lingering side effects from that hardcore use. Maybe he drops dead a year or two earlier than he otherwise would have, but he got decades of improved quality of living before that. Smart roid use/TRT isn't going to kill you. Watch some More Plates More Dates on youtube. Guys like Rogan do it moderately for a reason - you have way more energy, your muscle mass deteriorates WAY slower, and your overall quality of life is 10x better.

Yeah pretty much this. Keep it reasonable and the benefits dramatically outweigh any downsides.
Like anything....go too far and it can be bad. Avoid Excess with basically everything.

 

[Dirge]

 

[felmmando]

Look at schwartzeneger, he’s like 80 and still going strong after roiding most of his life.

And has a scar on his chest to show for it.

 

[Deathbycalfkick]

I believe Kevin Randleman's health issues and eventual death was because of this.

Yeah, the nasty staph infection he had probably didn't help much either. That shit destroys your heart and lungs. And his was one of the worst I've ever seen in an athlete.

 

[Deathbycalfkick]

It's a coping mechanism used by retarded fans. My favorite fighter is a juicehead therefore everyone else is a juicehead.

Sugar shins and melted candle body Josh Barnett popped. Where you have guys inside the sport giving conservative estimates of 90% it's not unreasonable to speculate that more guys are using than not.

 

[lepsahekim]

And has a scar on his chest to show for it.

Drugs, alcohol, steaks and cigars is likely what killed his blood vessels and clogged his arteries, not the roids. Many American men over 70 have had bypasses, were they all on roids?

 

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[Cazador Diurno]

Lol. Which one of your boys got popped?
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Hahaha i loled, u still naive tho haha

 

[snaportap21]

Of course it will kind of like the WWF wrestlers or bodybuilders.

Idk, different level of roid user. Idk if mma fighters abuse roids the way those two groups do. I think we’d have to compare them to nfl mlb or boxers.

 

[Street Bishop]

Hahaha i loled, u still naive tho haha

I try to give guys the benefit of the doubt. You're still believing your own bro science lol

 

[M.U.S.C.L.E.]

God made us in his image, therefore we are perfect the way we naturally are. Those who try to circumvent His work are punished with early death. So it is written.
However, the satanic doctors and their unholy surgeries prevent His punishment from being fulfilled.

 

[listrahtes]

Look at schwartzeneger, he’s like 80 and still going strong after roiding most of his life. It’s the unhealthy (overweight, diuretics,painkillers, drugs, alcohol) lifestyle and physical damage that lead to early death of people who roid, not the roiding itself unless they are way overdoing it to the point of organ damage (liver, heart).

Schwartzenegger also had a lot of luck and the blessing to be in a generation that didnt use as much diuretics. The amounts of roids he took back then killed other bodybuilders but people are different and some win the genetic lottery. Its the same with smoking. Andreas Münzer, one of the leading bodybuilders back in the 90s died at 31. His kidney and liver had failed, his heart was more than TWIZE the size of a normal heart . He had enormous tumors in his liver. You are right that diuretics played a big role but the roids were also a big part especially of his heart and stomach problems. Even without the organ failures he wouldnt have seen 50 with such a heart. Look at Flex Wheeler, Coleman etc today. Part of their miserable health is the hard training especially with Ronny but thats the point. Without roids they wouldnt have been able to kill their body like that. At pro bodybuilding roiding is never healthy. Its in other sports when they take in much lower doses but most fuck up.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

True fan back at it with his shit threads

 

[felmmando]

Drugs, alcohol, steaks and cigars is likely what killed his blood vessels and clogged his arteries, not the roids. Many American men over 70 have had bypasses, were they all on roids?

Were they all as fit as he?