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Social Man Dies Fighting Hotel Security, Ben Crump Already On Case

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Did not take that vulture long to contact the man's family. Apparently the guy was creating a disturbance inside the hotel and fought with security as they tried to escort him out. They restrained him until police arrived and he died as a result. At least one of the guards was a different race from the victim so I wouldn't be surprised if that angle is played. Supposedly he was having a "mental health crisis" which absolves him from wrongdoing I guess.
 
Did not take that vulture long to contact the man's family.


Giles told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Wednesday that the family first reached out to Crump on Monday. Giles said Crump's decision to represent the family came after he reviewed media accounts and other information provided by the family.

"It is deeply troubling that we have lost another Black man in an encounter with security personnel, raising serious concerns about the use of force, lack of accountability, and absence of mental health considerations," Crump said in a statement to media Wednesday. "The circumstances surrounding Dvontaye’s death outside the Hyatt Regency Hotel are disturbing and as described by a witness, reminiscent of the killing of George Floyd. Dvontaye’s family is now left searching for answers and justice in the face of this tragic loss."
 
Was his history of mental health struggles documented? I hate when people use this as a convenient excuse while minimizing people really suffering.

I don't like the fact that anyone lost their life but no one has the right to terrorize people.

Seems like a shitty situation all around.
 

Well it turns out Crump was onto something here. Hotel staff essentially beat the man to death and then lied to police about it. I was hoping they wouldn't be incompetent and malicious but it appears they were both.
 

Did not take that vulture long to contact the man's family. Apparently the guy was creating a disturbance inside the hotel and fought with security as they tried to escort him out. They restrained him until police arrived and he died as a result. At least one of the guards was a different race from the victim so I wouldn't be surprised if that angle is played. Supposedly he was having a "mental health crisis" which absolves him from wrongdoing I guess.
- Depending of the procedure, move used, they're responsible, a person can die in a panic attack, when imobilized belly down. I'm sure wasnt intentional, but they're poor trained security, if they were even trained.
 
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Well it turns out Crump was onto something here. Hotel staff essentially beat the man to death and then lied to police about it. I was hoping they wouldn't be incompetent and malicious but it appears they were both.
- Power situation. I was ounce in a store, and over heard guys saying they liked to beat thiefs.
 
Sounds like he was making a scene and got delt with
 
When they had him outside of the hotel, they probably should have let him up and not let him back into the hotel. The threat to the guests is removed at that moment. It’s hard to tell from just this video, though. But I am not a fan of security going above and beyond what it actually needed of them. Release him and call the police with a description and keep eyes on him.

And I am sure that crump et al. will be all over all those deaths in chicago like they are this one. I am so sick of the double standards of ignoring so many deaths and focusing on something like this. Why? Because they plan to sue all of Hyatt, a large hotel chain, and they will get millions. This man got an elaborate funeral and a parade. We all know “mental health crisis” is likely related to drugs and or alcohol. And they certainly felt the need to restrain him for some reason and felt he was a threat. If he is as mentally unstable as the family suggests, maybe they should keep a better watch on him?
 
- Power situation. I was ounce in a store, and over heard guys saying they liked to beat thiefs.

I work in a store, and we do. :)

Unfortunately, it's hard to get away with now. In the good old days, we just went with the, "It was self-defence, officer" excuse. And the police, for the most part, didn't give a shit. But now even thieving scum have got, "rights". :mad:
 

Well it turns out Crump was onto something here. Hotel staff essentially beat the man to death and then lied to police about it. I was hoping they wouldn't be incompetent and malicious but it appears they were both.
Felony murder? Does that mean something different in Wisconsin?
 
As I posted all over crump’s twitter -when were you planning to address the 100 shot and 19 killed in Chicago-all black btw? But this guy….this guy is the tragedy not the 8 year old murdered in chicago
 
Felony murder? Does that mean something different in Wisconsin?
It means the man died during while the people were committing a felony, usually used to implicate those for homicide who weren't direct contributors to the death. For example, if two people are committing an armed robbery and one of them is shot dead in the process, the second suspect can be charged with felony murder. Not sure how it applies here though. Anyone hitting the guy could be charged with reckless homicide, unless they're counting bystanders as being complicit.
 
- Depending of the procedure, move used, they're responsible, a person can die in a panic attack, when imobilized belly down. I fdure wasnt intentional, but they're poor trained security, if they were even trained.
Security gigs usually go to the lowest bidder. We had a guy get brained over snack cakes by a convicted felon working as security for a gas station. How did he have a gun? Who knows.
 
It means the man died during while the people were committing a felony, usually used to implicate those for homicide who weren't direct contributors to the death. For example, if two people are committing an armed robbery and one of them is shot dead in the process, the second suspect can be charged with felony murder. Not sure how it applies here though. Anyone hitting the guy could be charged with reckless homicide, unless they're counting bystanders as being complicit.
Exactly. I guess they’re going to argue they killed him during a kidnapping (false imprisonment)
 
I work in a store, and we do. :)

Unfortunately, it's hard to get away with now. In the good old days, we just went with the, "It was self-defence, officer" excuse. And the police, for the most part, didn't give a shit. But now even thieving scum have got, "rights". :mad:
- I was one of the nne security guards on that store. I've heard some-dude that worked there, but wasnt security, saying that.

Isnt or job beating people, if they arent a physical treat.
 
Security gigs usually go to the lowest bidder. We had a guy get brained over snack cakes by a convicted felon working as security for a gas station. How did he have a gun? Who knows.
- I remember this thread. Usually those type of guys that get jobs here, at gas station or pharmacy, because the business doesnt wants to pay a trained guard, and a trained guard doesnt wants to work in a place dangerous like that alone.
 
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