Crime Man beheaded in Northern France

[Cole train]

This is just another case where "gun laws" don't really work when you have a bunch of guys who don't obey the laws. The citizens are unarmed, but the thugs are armed to the teeth with assault rifles and grenades.

They're more well-armed than the police basically, and probably even the Swedish military.

Swedish cops aren't really paid enough of a wage to go into these areas, and arrest them.

Yeah kinda makes you think what the situation is on ground if gangs think they can do this without problems

 

[SATW]

Here is a demographic story of a country that started as majority Christian and ended up in a civil war 1975-1990 when the Muslim decided to take the lead

 

[Islam Imamate]

Here is a demographic story of a country that started as majority Christian and ended up in a civil war 1975-1990 when the Muslim decided to take the lead

Lol at an Israeli pretending to care about Lebanon when your country threatens to destroy it habitually.

I guess it is relevant though since its yet another former French colony that they royally fucked with their terrible governance and statecraft.

 

[SATW]

Lol at an Israeli pretending to care about Lebanon when your country threatens to destroy it habitually.

I guess it is relevant though since its yet another former French colony that they royally fucked with their terrible governance and statecraft.

The muslim became the majority and then started slaughter them christians, that's the goal of bringing Lebanon

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

I wasn't talking about Islamists, I was talking about Muslims. When Muslims say they prioritize Sharia over secular law what they're saying is that their moral principles supersede mere law and as I said that's not really unique to them. No one really determines their morality based on law, we follow the law so as to not run afoul of the authorities but even then common people break the law all the time and often not even for moral reasons.

Not the law, instead the inalienable rights written in our constitution are America's shared morality. If anyone believes that Sharia or any other system of governance supersedes our Constitution within America then they should not be given citizenship.

 

[Islam Imamate]

The muslim became the majority and then started slaughter them christians, that's the goal of bringing Lebanon

Pretty sure the first massacre of the war was at the hands of the Phalangists but not surprised to see you present a dishonest and twisted take to further your agenda. Very sleazy of you but expected at this point.

Not the law, instead the inalienable rights written in our constitution are America's shared morality. If anyone believes that Sharia or any other system of governance supersedes our Constitution within America then they should not be given citizenship.

You're delusional if you really think Americans get their morality from the Constitution. For instance many support banning desecration of the flag and hate speech laws(both already illegal in France btw, so much for free speech). And many Americans are against the 2nd amendment. If someone believes in a gun ban should that bar them from citizenship?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

this is france at the moment
but but immigrants welcome

https://rmx.news/article/article/fr...ing-18-year-old-victorine-dartois-reports-say
https://rmx.news/article/article/fr...in-the-face-for-wearing-a-skirt-in-strasbourg
https://rmx.news/article/article/fr...oreign-male-sexually-assaulting-her-in-public

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Pretty sure the first massacre of the war was at the hands of the Phalangists but not surprised to see you present a dishonest and twisted take to further your agenda. Very sleazy of you but expected at this point.

You're delusional if you really think Americans get their morality from the Constitution. For instance many support banning desecration of the flag and hate speech laws(both already illegal in France btw, so much for free speech). And many Americans are against the 2nd amendment. If someone believes in a gun ban should that bar them from citizenship?

The Constitution is what out military pledges their Oath of Service to and what immigrants pledge the Oath of Allegiance to. If they cannot honestly recite those words they should not be given citizenship.

For instance many support banning desecration of the flag and hate speech laws(both already illegal in France btw, so much for free speech)

As with any right, FoS is not absolute and there are some exceptions like: obscenity, fraud, child pornography, speech integral to illegal conduct, incitement. If someone believes in free speech but has a reasonable contention over an exception, that would be acceptable as long as they aren't attempting to incite in their criticism.

If someone believes in a gun ban should that bar them from citizenship?

Yes, as Americans we believe in the right to bear arms and self defense. If they want a complete ban on the 2nd amendment they should not be given citizenship.

 

[Yagadot]

I can comprehend a random nut job cutting someone’s head off or blowing up a building. Lone nutjob etc.

What always troubles me is that the people around these nutjobs incite and work up the person to do something like this. Same happened in the Manchester bombing. Imams that preach hate, families that turn a blind eye. A lot of similar traits to all of these Islamist terror cases.

 

[Islam Imamate]

The Constitution is what out military pledges their Oath of Service to and what immigrants pledge the Oath of Allegiance to. If they cannot honestly recite those words they should not be given citizenship.\\

\As with any right, FoS is not absolute and there are some exceptions like: obscenity, fraud, child pornography, speech integral to illegal conduct, incitement. If someone believes in free speech but has a reasonable contention over an exception, that would be acceptable as long as they aren't attempting to incite in their criticism.

Ah so people who support hate speech laws and criminalizing desecration of the flag just have reasonable contentions but Muslims who feel that blasphemy should be off limits are beyond the pale? Nice double standard there.

Yes, as Americans we believe in the right to self defense. If they want a complete ban on the 2nd amendment they should not be given citizenship.

Would you say Americans who support an assault weapons and handgun ban have incompatible values then? I mean those go against the 2nd amendment yet have support among many Americas. Or in other words, most people don't get their morality form the Constitution.

 

[SATW]

 

[Kandyland]

So dumb. You know some of us on this site are Muslim or have Muslim friends. You want to throw everyone in the same boat then fine but that makes you a racist xenophobe.

Lol at thinking Muslims are a race. Its a group of religious people, bro. That's like saying Moemons are a race.

 

[trac209]

this is france at the moment
but but immigrants welcome

https://rmx.news/article/article/fr...ing-18-year-old-victorine-dartois-reports-say
https://rmx.news/article/article/fr...in-the-face-for-wearing-a-skirt-in-strasbourg
https://rmx.news/article/article/fr...oreign-male-sexually-assaulting-her-in-public

Problem is all those victims probably would have voiced their approval of migrants by the thousands if asked.... they voted this shit in and now wonder wtf happened to France. Canada is the same here, during the “pandemic “. Trudeau is still bringing in as many migrants as he can....

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Ah so people who support hate speech laws and criminalizing desecration of the flag just have reasonable contentions but Muslims who feel that blasphemy should be off limits are beyond the pale? Nice double standard there.

People that want the flag protected to preserve the flag's status as a symbol of the nation are contradictory and wrong in my book but their intent was not to supersede any of our rights. Muslims that want everyone in the US to follow Sharia's religious blasphemy law are not being reasonable in my mind as they want their divine law to supersede the 1A.

Would you say Americans who support an assault weapons and handgun ban have incompatible values then? I mean those go against the 2nd amendment yet have support among many Americas. Or in other words, most people don't get their morality form the Constitution.

Those do not necessarily go against the 2A as we'd have to look at what the founders intended and it's application\evolution to todays weapons and technology; it's a legitimate debate in my book. And once again, immigrants must be able to recite the pledge to defend our Constitution honestly so yes, it is American morality.

 

[ineverpost]

An American cop would have done exactly the same thing and absolutely no one would have complained about it. Because, of course, he had just decapitated an innocent person and was an ongoing threat. Now, if instead, he had mental problems and was standing in the middle of the street wielding a knife, and posing no other threat, shooting him dead in that situation would probably provoke a negative response from the average citizen. When it comes to police response, the situation does matter.

Wielding a knife and posing no other threat. I don't think you can logically put these things together. It's not the duty of the police to administer crisis intervention. If there is a maniac running around in my hood with a weapon, I want him off that street by any means necessary.

 

[Islam Imamate]

People that want the flag protected to preserve the flag's status as a symbol of the nation are contradictory and wrong in my book but their intent was not to supersede any of our rights. Muslims that want everyone in the US to follow Sharia's religious blasphemy law are not being reasonable in my mind as they want their divine law to supersede the 1A.

I like how you ignored the part about hate speech to justify the double standard, the same double standard that exists in France. Basically if you want to shit on Muslims you're a hero but don't you dare desecrate the flag or engage in anti-Semitism. I'm not even against the double standard, its natural for countries to hold their national symbols in high regard and given France's unique history with the Jewish people its understandable they'd have unique sensitivity to anti-Semitism. That's not wrong, just get off your high horse when it comes to "muh freedom of speech!"

Those do not necessarily go against the 2A as we'd have to look at what the founders intended and it's application\evolution to todays weapons and technology; it's a legitimate debate in my book. And once again, immigrants must be able to recite the pledge to defend our Constitution honestly so yes, it is American morality.

That's plain wrong, handgun bans have been struck down as unconstitutional.

Again Americans do not really derive their morals from the Constitution, that's a fiction you've invented here. We're bound to it by law but that doesn't mean our individual morality aligns with it and in the case of many Americans there are tensions such as the case of flag desecration, hate speech, views on guns and so on.

 

[Wingslaught]

Imo, the victim is a casualty of a failed policy of multi-culturalism. France has brought enemies with incompatible values to live with them in their own nation so that their people are not safe.

 

[Yagadot]

I like how you ignored the part about hate speech to justify the double standard, the same double standard that exists in France. Basically if you want to shit on Muslims you're a hero but don't you dare desecrate the flag or engage in anti-Semitism.

Hate speech covers anti-Muslim hatred though. Drawing pictures or critiquing/mocking Christianity, Judaism or Islam is mocking ideas. Are we saying people are being accused of anti-semitism for criticism or mocking Judaism?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Hate speech covers anti-Muslim hatred though. Drawing pictures or critiquing/mocking Christianity, Judaism or Islam is mocking ideas. Are we saying people are being accused of anti-semitism for criticism or mocking Judaism?

Its not clear because the cartoonist was censored by Charlie Hebdo so we never got to see the cartoon in question but nonetheless fair point.

 

[Bald1]

I said something years ago and now you're extrapolating a story from it. Maybe write it down and adapt it into a novel or something, you've got quite the imagination it seems.

So, a flat out liar as well as an apologist, eh A Psych Major? I'm done with you.