Mackenzie Dern >>> Ronda

Phisher said:
Vitali took bombs from Lewis that stopped elite level HWs and didn't go down.

No way either Klitschko in their primes would get stopped early by Ali.

I suggest that you actually watch these guys fight.
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I definitely agree with you. No way could Ali starch the Klitschko brothers. Ali was good but I don't think he was the goat. I think the lore and legends surpass the man.
 
Matt Conley said:
I definitely agree with you. No way could Ali starch the Klitschko brothers. Ali was good but I don't think he was the goat. I think the lore and legends surpass the man.
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Ali is the Goat and Ali would starch Kitschko bros.
 
Dern at her worst is better than Ronda at her best.

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Dear TS,
Are seriously suggesting that Mr. Rogan should start hyping Mackenzie because he used to hype Ronda and Mackenzie is better in your mind. Let's think this again.
Cause 1, Maybe mr. Rogan doesn't think Mackenzie is as great as you think.
Cause 2, Ronda was a market plan in her time. Hyping her brought money to the table.
Cause 3, Ronda was first, next one should be far more greater to be able to hyped credible.
Cause 4, Can't market any one in 2021 because she's better than Ronda. Ronda is derailed.

And for last but not least, Ronda has shown better shadow boxing skills and even better heart than Mackenzie. And that's not a compliment towards Ronda. Or I am not saying Ronda has any of those qualities. That tells only Mackenzies lack of those qualities.
 
You guys do realize that Rhonda is an olympic level Judoka right? Advanced level Judokas are a bad style matchup for BJJ since Judo has dominance in the throws, top positions and often the strength advantage. BJJ has the dominance in subs and guard work from back but the advanced Judoka knows how to defend. I'd say Rhonda would've beat her by points.
 
kflo said:
While she looks awful in that clip, for whatever reason, she didn’t always look like that, particularly for wmma (no disrespct to my wmma posse!).
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Although I don’t know why she can’t rotate / pivot her left foot on her hooks. Still much getter than shadow boxing ronda..
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She pivots her right foot instead of her left foot on the left hook. Very minimum body mechanics for the sake of landing more combos with speed. She still looks bad.
 
Here are few opponents for Mackenzie, and we can see how she surpasses Rhonda:
GDR
Holly
Amanda
 
7even said:
She pivots her right foot instead of her left foot on the left hook. Very minimum body mechanics for the sake of landing more combos with speed. She still looks bad.
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and Edmond isn’t even throwing strikes at her head, just over it... no wonder her defensive was shit.
 
kflo said:
Why do you think dern has more power?
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Only in that she throws more recklessly with more of her body in it. Punch for punch might probably be different, but that's an argument I stopped trying to make on Sherdog. I had always contended that true power was guys like Lawler or prime Juggernaut who could devastate your functions with any strike, even with a small range of motion like a short hook. But I always find myself overruled by the mass of voices saying guys like Lombard and Hendricks doing full crow-hops into an overhand right in order to send a guy halfway across the cage were the most powerful.

PrideUltimate said:
Here are few opponents for Mackenzie, and we can see how she surpasses Rhonda:
GDR
Holly
Amanda
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What? You wanna explain that? In order for her to be better than Ronda, she needs beat the 3 best women 20-30 pounds heavier than her?
 
7even said:
She pivots her right foot instead of her left foot on the left hook. Very minimum body mechanics for the sake of landing more combos with speed. She still looks bad.
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Nah. If those were the only gifs we had of Ronda no one would be posting them to laugh at. It’s not that bad. But of course there are technical flaws. The bigger pivot from the right foot is on the cross though.
 
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kflo said:
Nah. If those were the only gifs we had of Ronda no one would be posting them to laugh at. It’s not that bad. But of course there are technical flaws. The bigger pivot from the right foot is on the cross though.
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Can someone slow down the gif? I think she is pivoting her right foot on the left hook.
 
7even said:
Can someone slow down the gif? I think she is pivoting her right foot on the left hook.
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Honestly, I don’t even know how you can pivot your right foot on a left hook.......try it.......
 
The Chosen said:
and Edmond isn’t even throwing strikes at her head, just over it... no wonder her defensive was shit.
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I noticed that a long time ago too. Edmond would through a punch over her head, she would not move at all and he would say "Good".
 
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