Mackenzie Dern appreciation thread ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[julmma]

Yep. Fight night pics.

Much harder to find pics over a course of 7 years that deals with her bust size. And different kinds of bras do different things to the appearance of a woman's breast size. So sports bra it was along with an older pic of her without a sports bra as a control, anyone can see her current bust size without a sports bra on.

Another wrinkle is her wearing a different type of top that shows more cleavage in her later fights rather then shirts she used to wear. No getting around that.

She's been out of fighting shape for awhile too so her body fat will have been up, not necessarily in a good way either from one set of pics I saw.

I'd prefer better pics but that is what is there for my purposes here.

I also was thinking of posting pics of her weigh ins, those aren't great either as she will be smaller from the weight cut for the weigh in, then normal. But the pics weren't great for that either. If Sherdog allowed for more pics in a post I probably would have done that where possible to compare weigh in vs fight night.

The control pics matches up with the first pic for that purpose however.

And I find plenty of women look just fine while in the cage but to each their own.

I figure I'd add a few pics for weigh in vs fight night pics since I posted here again. Spoilers again due to this being a Dern thread.

(Getting off topic at this point - I think I will put (one) Dern pics, if there are any good ones not posted for the topics' sake.)

Spoiler

Better view of bust size here at the Weight Ins, not liking the lighting though.

Fighting Night

From back when Cathilee (Cat) Albert was fighting at Flyweight for the Ring of Fire 125lbs Title.

Dern being goofy on the beach. I figured I'd go with personality.

For her second mma fight she hasn't her boobs done yet, it was on 2007. Of course she already had Brayden.


I dunno if this pictures are trying to prove any point, I just find them extremely hot, I have something for Cat, dunno why but she's perfect to me.

She has a boob job, but it's not as big as Miesha's. Nowadays Cat is having some weight issues so her boobs might look bigger than her days before UFC (of course not counting the weights in). Great by me!!

 

[Thirdpres]

For her second mma fight she hasn't her boobs done yet, it was on 2007. Of course she already had Brayden.

I dunno if this pictures are trying to prove any point, I just find them extremely hot, I have something for Cat, dunno why but she's perfect to me.

She has a boob job, but it's not as big as Miesha's. Nowadays Cat is having some weight issues so her boobs might look bigger than her days before UFC (of course not counting the weights in). Great by me!!

She had some ammy fights in late 2007 as I recall. She was doing some bjj tournaments too in that year. 2007 – Rio de Janeiro State Jiu Jitsu Championships (Winner) and 2007 – World Jiu Jitsu Championships (Mundials) in Los Angeles (Winner) from what I've seen.

(I'd like more information on these tournaments. I guess I could try and check around more but I wonder if that is worthwhile.)

I've seen people making comments about her breast size for years. Even articles about it on different celeb sites. 8)

As for the pics they are just there for people who want to take a look. I used to know where I could find a few pics from her high school period but that site isn't around anymore, at least in its old form. The sites focus was on girls in wrestling. It had tons of information on different female wrestlers going back decades.

Some bits and pieces from that website I quotes some years ago on Sherdog for anyone interested, in spoilers.

Spoiler

Old Interview but useful to see what went on in Cat Zingano's early life and how it relates to how families deal with a daughter wanting to fight, or wrestle, in this case.

Cat Zingano - Cathilee Albert

By Peter Jakel
Camera Sports Writer


Some criticize Fairview's Cathilee Albert for wrestling.

Some disapprove.

And others object.

Yet none of that matters to Albert because she's good at it.

The junior-to-be at Fairview High School competed on the junior varsity boys wrestling squad in the 130 and 135-pound weight classes during the winter before winning the 16-and-under girls wrestling national championship earlier this summer.

That championship has extended Albert an invitation to wrestle in the Women's Cadet World Championships in the 143-pound weight class in Poland this August.

"I'm really nervous because I've seen pictures of the women down there and they are like 5 feet tall and they weigh as much as me," Albert said. "I don't know what to expect. I have no idea what I'm getting into."

Albert has also won the Rocky Mountain Regional Open Women's Championships and competed in the Open Women's Nation Championships this offseason.

Albert has to come up with $900 to make the trip to Poland, but she said she thinks her parents are going to foot the bill.

That's a surprise, considering Albert's mother, Barbara, hasn't been really supportive of Albert's decision to wrestle for some valid reasons.

"My mom hated the idea of it because my sister always wanted to do hockey or football and they said no there's no way," Albert said. "She hates it because she doesn't like watching kids get thrown on their heads.

"I got a concussion and sprained my top vertebrae and broke the top of my teeth off and she spent a lot of money to get that fixed."

Other FHS parents have told Fairview head coach Jim Heun they will not allow their sons to practice with the team if Albert is a member of the squad.

Heun's answer was simple (Missing the rest of the article from Sherdog) In short Heun told the parent their kid could stay away if that was their attitude.

#46
Thirdpres, Apr 16, 2013

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Some wrestling examples:

High School All Stars: Jrs.

- 136 Sara McMann, Cathilee Albert (Cat Zingano) * ,Katie Patroch


*CATHILEE ALBERT, AGE 17 , FAIRVIEW H.S. SENIOR . 1999 CADET TEAM MEMBER , 2000 JUNIOR WORLD TEAM TRIALS , 3RD. DAVE SHULTZ RUNNER UP , RANKED no.6 ON THE USA SENIOR TEAM. BOULDER COLORADO* (Note that Cat tapped Tonya Evinger at this meet and lost by dec. to Sara McMann at the DAVE SHULTZ Invitational.)

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#28
Thirdpres, Apr 12, 2013

After Cat had an injury during college, her dream of competing in the Olympics gone, her old wrestling coach Jim Heun, seeing having personal problems, suggested she get into bjj. I've always been grateful he looked after her like that.

I'm glad you enjoy the pics. Just putting them out there for people to get a sense of her over the years.

 

[julmma]

She had some ammy fights in late 2007 as I recall. She was doing some bjj tournaments too in that year. 2007 – Rio de Janeiro State Jiu Jitsu Championships (Winner) and 2007 – World Jiu Jitsu Championships (Mundials) in Los Angeles (Winner) from what I've seen.

(I'd like more information on these tournaments. I guess I could try and check around more but I wonder if that is worthwhile.)

I've seen people making comments about her breast size for years. Even articles about it on different celeb sites. 8)

As for the pics they are just there for people who want to take a look. I used to know where I could find a few pics from her high school period but that site isn't around anymore, at least in its old form. The sites focus was on girls in wrestling. It had tons of information on different female wrestlers going back decades.

Some bits and pieces from that website I quotes some years ago on Sherdog for anyone interested, in spoilers.

Spoiler

Old Interview but useful to see what went on in Cat Zingano's early life and how it relates to how families deal with a daughter wanting to fight, or wrestle, in this case.

Cat Zingano - Cathilee Albert

By Peter Jakel
Camera Sports Writer


Some criticize Fairview's Cathilee Albert for wrestling.

Some disapprove.

And others object.

Yet none of that matters to Albert because she's good at it.

The junior-to-be at Fairview High School competed on the junior varsity boys wrestling squad in the 130 and 135-pound weight classes during the winter before winning the 16-and-under girls wrestling national championship earlier this summer.

That championship has extended Albert an invitation to wrestle in the Women's Cadet World Championships in the 143-pound weight class in Poland this August.

"I'm really nervous because I've seen pictures of the women down there and they are like 5 feet tall and they weigh as much as me," Albert said. "I don't know what to expect. I have no idea what I'm getting into."

Albert has also won the Rocky Mountain Regional Open Women's Championships and competed in the Open Women's Nation Championships this offseason.

Albert has to come up with $900 to make the trip to Poland, but she said she thinks her parents are going to foot the bill.

That's a surprise, considering Albert's mother, Barbara, hasn't been really supportive of Albert's decision to wrestle for some valid reasons.

"My mom hated the idea of it because my sister always wanted to do hockey or football and they said no there's no way," Albert said. "She hates it because she doesn't like watching kids get thrown on their heads.

"I got a concussion and sprained my top vertebrae and broke the top of my teeth off and she spent a lot of money to get that fixed."

Other FHS parents have told Fairview head coach Jim Heun they will not allow their sons to practice with the team if Albert is a member of the squad.

Heun's answer was simple (Missing the rest of the article from Sherdog) In short Heun told the parent their kid could stay away if that was their attitude.

#46
Thirdpres, Apr 16, 2013

--
Some wrestling examples:

High School All Stars: Jrs.

- 136 Sara McMann, Cathilee Albert (Cat Zingano) * ,Katie Patroch


*CATHILEE ALBERT, AGE 17 , FAIRVIEW H.S. SENIOR . 1999 CADET TEAM MEMBER , 2000 JUNIOR WORLD TEAM TRIALS , 3RD. DAVE SHULTZ RUNNER UP , RANKED no.6 ON THE USA SENIOR TEAM. BOULDER COLORADO* (Note that Cat tapped Tonya Evinger at this meet and lost by dec. to Sara McMann at the DAVE SHULTZ Invitational.)

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#28
Thirdpres, Apr 12, 2013

After Cat had an injury during college, her dream of competing in the Olympics gone, her old wrestling coach Jim Heun, seeing having personal problems, suggested she get into bjj. I've always been grateful he looked after her like that.

I'm glad you enjoy the pics. Just putting them out there for people to get a sense of her over the years.

Thanks for the old interview!! She also accomplished a lot as a wrestler, despite she couldn't make the senior national team.
All I know is that she had an injury that kept her away from the national team, she got really sad or disappointed by that, then her mum passed away and had Brayden, lot happened in her life. After she had her son, her wrestling coach told her to try bjj, where she met Mauricio. She's still in touch with her coach, a couple of month ago, she posted a picture with him and her son.

 

[Thirdpres]

Thanks for the old interview!! She also accomplished a lot as a wrestler, despite she couldn't make the senior national team.
All I know is that she had an injury that kept her away from the national team, she got really sad or disappointed by that, then her mum passed away and had Brayden, lot happened in her life. After she had her son, her wrestling coach told her to try bjj, where she met Mauricio. She's still in touch with her coach, a couple of month ago, she posted a picture with him and her son.

You're welcome. Agreed.

Glad to see she still has a friend in her coach. He had an important impact on her life. Helped her turn things around. Wishing her the best.

I think there is more out there but finding it is harder to do with that website down. They also started to cover MMA as high school and college wrestlers transitioned into MMA. Lots of early coverage for those women.

On another note: I recall Evinger and Albert wrestled four times. Albert won once and Evinger won three times. That is just some details I remember from previously reading these kinds of things and Evinger once mentioned their meetings on the mats on Fightergirls forums years ago.