Looking back how exactly did Elias do so well?

Sweater of AV said:
Nothing you've said has indicated he'd definitively beat them. I just think you must not understand MMA as well as you think that's all.
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I at least gave reasons. You just said that you think it's wrong without giving anything else.

Anyway you know how much you've watched, so you know if you're bullshitting or not.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
I at least gave reasons. You just said that you think it's wrong without giving anything else.

Anyway you know how much you've watched, so you know if you're bullshitting or not.
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You gave vague, pointless reasons that basically amount to nothing. Point-fighting and running around will win some and lose some. Even someone like Vanderford will have a very close fight with Elias.

I'm well aware of how much I watch. I would think someone who claims they watch every event from 20 organizations would be a bit more worried about whether they're bullshitting or not.
 
Sweater of AV said:
You gave vague, pointless reasons that basically amount to nothing. Point-fighting and running around will win some and lose some. Even someone like Vanderford will have a very close fight with Elias.

I'm well aware of how much I watch. I would think someone who claims they watch every event from 20 organizations would be a bit more worried about whether they're bullshitting or not.
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Vanderford doesn't have particularly good standup, he has good wrestling, but Elias hasn't shown to be susceptible to being taken down. Austin also isn't particularly quick with his feet to work Elias against the fence and take him down from there. How do you think he wins with his fairly rudimentary striking?
 
I would say he was very strong and had good stamina.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Vanderford doesn't have particularly good standup, he has good wrestling, but Elias hasn't shown to be susceptible to being taken down. Austin also isn't particularly quick with his feet to work Elias against the fence and take him down from there. How do you think he wins with his fairly rudimentary striking?
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It's hilarious you think Vanderford's striking is that much worse than Elias' but regardless I said it's a close fight that can go either way. They're very evenly matched. Believing Elias wins 100% of the time is ignorant.

Any other thoughts on watching every event from 20 organizations?
 
Sweater of AV said:
It's hilarious you think Vanderford's striking is that much worse than Elias' but regardless I said it's a close fight that can go either way. They're very evenly matched. Believing Elias wins 100% of the time is ignorant.

Any other thoughts on watching every event from 20 organizations?
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I didn't say I watch every event, I said I watch most events.

I still don't think you've ever watched Vanderford, but you can come back in an hour after you've youtubed a few of his fights and give an actual opinion if you like.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
I didn't say I watch every event, I said I watch most events.

I still don't think you've ever watched Vanderford, but you can come back in an hour after you've youtubed a few of his fights and give an actual opinion if you like.
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You've been reduced to pretending like no one has watched people's fights.

Just admit you're a UFC mark. I'll give you an hour to come to terms with it and then give me an actual opinion if you like.
 
Sweater of AV said:
You've been reduced to pretending like no one has watched people's fights.

Just admit you're a UFC mark. I'll give you an hour to come to terms with it and then give me an actual opinion if you like.
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You can't give an actual opinion on his fight style, everything you've said has been related to the way Elias fights. That's why I don't think you've seen him.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
You can't give an actual opinion on his fight style, everything you've said has been related to the way Elias fights. That's why I don't think you've seen him.
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I know his fight style well which is why I think they're a very good match-up.

It's nice to see you in this state. Come to terms with being a UFC mark. It'll make things easier for you and you won't have to pretend otherwise anymore.
 
Sweater of AV said:
I know his fight style well which is why I think they're a very good match-up.

It's nice to see you in this state. Come to terms with being a UFC mark. It'll make things easier for you and you won't have to pretend otherwise anymore.
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I also don't know why you're pretending I'm in a state lol.

I probably promote the skills of non UFC fighters more than just about anyone on the board.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
I also don't know why you're pretending I'm in a state lol.

I probably promote the skills of non UFC fighters more than just about anyone on the board.
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Just observing you claiming no one has watched any other fighters while you watch every event from 20 organizations. Don't worry about it.

You have a pretty clear UFC bias imho but it is what it is. Maybe one day Elias will sign with Bellator, ONE etc and we'll see what happens. Until then I'm content with believing he'll be very competitive but will lose some fights and you'll believe he wins 100% of fights outside of one or two people.
 
Sweater of AV said:
Just observing you claiming no one has watched any other fighters while you watch every event from 20 organizations. Don't worry about it.

You have a pretty clear UFC bias imho but it is what it is. Maybe one day Elias will sign with Bellator, ONE etc and we'll see what happens. Until then I'm content with believing he'll be very competitive but will lose some fights and you'll believe he wins 100% of fights outside of one or two people.
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I don't claim noone else watches anything, plenty of people watch plenty. I just don't think you've seen Austin Vanderford.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
I don't claim noone else watches anything, plenty of people watch plenty. I just don't think you've seen Austin Vanderford.
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See, this is the state you're in ;)

You're free to believe whatever you like if it makes you feel better after being exposed as a UFC mark.
 
Head mooment.

But seriously, he was an expert at "being seen working" (as opposed to actually working). I'm confident we all have knkwn people like that - at work, at school, in any setting that requires participation. They are very vocal and they make sure everyone (especially the boss/teacher) notices them, but they don't actually do anything.
 
Mostly on his opponents IMO, a lot of guys played his game for some reason.
He isn’t very good at anything except making you fight his fight and looking active whilst doing nothing, guys who actually went out there and didn’t fight his game beat his ass.
 
Sweater of AV said:
Looking cool on the internet isn't really a big deal, but that does explain some things.
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I can see you have to get the last word in so we'll leave it there. You can reply to this and I'll leave you a like so you can see I've read it and then life can continue.
 
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