Yeah.. being I fought professionally, simply for fun, shits and giggles.. being I turned pro at the age of 35 and went 2-1. My cousin isn't Karim Mayfield and I don't train under Bunkered's son, who isn't one of my best friends either.. yeah, try again casual. Some of us on here, live this, not read about it.. let me give you some info kiddo.. do you know Faber, Diaz bros, Jake, Gil, Castillo, Munoz, Irvin, Terrell, etc.. all trained together in the early yrs? If so.. what gym? Can't find a link for that one.. gotta not be a casual to know actual reality. How long was Rumble at AKA, when did Liam, Frankie, BJ and Ortiz train at AKA?