Lois Lerner held in contempt, Prosecution a possibility

[glennrod]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27319132

This is a great outcome, for someone who Is supposedly "serving the people" she sure done a terrible job. What are the chances that she actually gets prosecuted?

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-27319132

This is a great outcome, for someone who Is supposedly "serving the people" she sure done a terrible job. What are the chances that she actually gets prosecuted?

"An inspector general's office report found no political motives behind the targeting, but many Republicans in Congress believe otherwise."

i am pretty sick of all these fake scandals.

 

[glennrod]

"An inspector general's office report found no political motives behind the targeting, but many Republicans in Congress believe otherwise."

i am pretty sick of all these fake scandals.

Its not a fake scandal broski. Why did she plead the fifth then if she had nothing to hide?

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Its not a fake scandal broski. Why did she plead the fifth then if she had nothing to hide?

because she knows it's a witch hunt and the gop will wreck her life for political gain?

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

these same republicans can't even admit the president was born in america.

 

[MASShole]

Its not a fake scandal broski. Why did she plead the fifth then if she had nothing to hide?

Ah, so pleading the 5th means you're automatically guilty or have something to hide.

I always thought it was to prevent exposing oneself to a charge or accusation. I say we look at this case from the Supreme Court Ohio v. Reiner, 532 U.S. 17 (2001). In it: a witness may have a reasonable fear of prosecution and yet be innocent of any wrongdoing

 

[glennrod]

these same republicans can't even admit the president was born in america.

Im sure there are plenty of republicans who believe he was born in America...

 

[glennrod]

Ah, so pleading the 5th means you're automatically guilty or have something to hide.

I always thought it was to prevent exposing oneself to a charge or accusation. I say we look at this case from the Supreme Court Ohio v. Reiner, 532 U.S. 17 (2001). In it: a witness may have a reasonable fear of prosecution and yet be innocent of any wrongdoing

Of course not, but I fail to see what she could be prosecuted for....unless she done something wrong, and the reports that have come out since, do in fact point to her doing bad things...like targeting conservatives unfairly

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Im sure there are plenty of republicans who believe he was born in America...

meanwhile it should be 100%.

further, they may believe it but a whole bunch won't get caught on record saying it.

 

[Hollywood Nicky]

Of course not, but I fail to see what she could be prosecuted for....unless she done something wrong, and the reports that have come out since, do in fact point to her doing bad things...like targeting conservatives unfairly

she also targeted liberal groups, but the truth is, there are far more conservative groups trying for the exemption than liberal.

"An inspector general's office report found no political motives behind the targeting, but many Republicans in Congress believe otherwise."

 

[Its Me Austin]

You can't make a statement and then plead the fifth. Choices can have consequences.

 

[TheMMAn]

"An inspector general's office report found no political motives behind the targeting, but many Republicans in Congress believe otherwise."

i am pretty sick of all these fake scandals.

I'm starting to believe that you are this stupid. If this is not retardation-level bias, it has to be stupidity.

From the IG's report:

In August 2010, the Determinations Unit distributed the first formal BOLO listing. The criteria in the BOLO listing were Tea Party organizations applying for I.R.C.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Ah, so pleading the 5th means you're automatically guilty or have something to hide.

In the court of public opinion this is pretty much correct. Probably because when people avoid answering questions it's usually the case they have something to hide.

 

[MASShole]

In the court of public opinion this is pretty much correct. Probably because when people avoid answering questions it's usually the case they have something to hide.

She plead the 5th in front of Congress. That's where it matters.

 

[Its Me Austin]

Right, AFTER making a statement.

 

[MASShole]

Right, AFTER making a statement.

Actually she can do that.

https://www.courtlistener.com/ca8/84V1/united-states-v-allmon/


It's still blurry at points though. This site does a good job of breaking it all down: http://www.popehat.com/2014/03/05/a-few-notes-on-lois-lerner-and-the-fifth-amendment/

 

[7437]

You can't make a statement and then plead the fifth. Choices can have consequences.

yes she can.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

She plead the 5th in front of Congress. That's where it matters.

Where what matters? The court of public opinion? I don't think I implied she would be legally punished for it.

 

[MASShole]

Where what matters? The court of public opinion? I don't think I implied she would be legally punished for it.

Sorry, I meant that's where her pleading the 5th matters, not the court of public opinion.

Sure, when someone pleads the 5th, the public automatically assumes they're hiding something, like glennrod.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Sorry, I meant that's where her pleading the 5th matters, not the court of public opinion.

Sure, when someone pleads the 5th, the public automatically assumes they're hiding something, like glennrod.

Thanks. I get that and I'm a big fan of not being forced to speak. Unfortunately in most instances (other than reporters covering their sources) it really is a good indication that there is something to hide/cover up. How incriminating that something is I don't know. I do know that refusing to answer questions is adding fuel to the fire.