Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Cash Bill 52, Apr 12, 2008.
Living vicariously through your teammates
Bill, it might be a generational thing too. All the young guys I roll with thought the double birds were really great. Some of the "older guys" thought it was risky and a little cocky.
I think Nate is a very good fighter. He comes from a good camp and has put in a lot of hard work, he earned the moment.
Plus Kurt was mocking for the camera during I think a kimura attempt. He was shaking his finger like there was no way Nate could finish it.
There are just some things you can't do or say in my and many others' profession. I wish I could be so honest. Sometimes other people have to fight for you. I appreciate their sacrifice.
Can you tell the brothers that they have fans on here and we'd like to hear from them from time to time?
Congrats to Nate for hanging in there and catching Kurt but IMHO Marcus deserved the bonus.
Thats all . . . and yes it is perfectly natural to live vicariously through your teammates. Especially when you cannot fight yourself.
I agree, Nate's sub was awesome, but not as sweet as Aurelio's, I think Nate got the bonus because he subbed a much more experienced opponent.
I thought they both deserved it, Marcus hit a great transition and so did Nate. I definitely didn't think that Nate was trying to flip off Kurt or his corner, I thought he was flipping off his critics, and the only ppl I have heard had a problem with it were ppl who didn't like Nate in the first place. I get tired of hearing that both Diaz brothers have an attitude problem, because really their attitude is just fine. They aren't going in there talking about how great they are and amazing they have the attitude that I am going in there and do my job...and my job is to I believe I'm quoting Nick "Whoop that ass".
I live vicariously through my teamates whenever they compete, and when I watch them compete I think I take their losses harder and take are more proud of their wins then they are. I've lost my driving competitive spirit when it comes to my own matches, but when my teamates are on the mat I'm circling left and right trying not o yell in peoples ears using body english thinking that its going to help them. I get more into it then probably anyone there. I love seeing my friends succeed and I share the pain when they lose, but thats just what it means to "live like friends and train like family"
They don't usually post online. I just sent a message to Nathan. So at least he will be reading this thread.
That's why I think it's important for everyone to compete once and a while. When your teammate is on the mat you feel like you are on the mat.
As far as Marcus's armbar, well...Too bad it happened that night. The part leading up to the submission must have figured into that scoring. Getting punched in the face and slammed to the ground and pulling that off was 1 in a million. Marcus's was only 1 in 100,000. Still awesome and I have to admit bias...
awesome thread. hilarious
Great thread. I'm a huge Nate Diaz fan although he kind of rubbed me the wrong way at first (on the show). When I saw him sink that triangle and go "double-fisted" I loved it. You could tell it was pure emotion. When he hit that triangle it was over.
I think he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way because he came off as thuggish and confrontational. I'll admit I thought so too, at first, but I thought he was really sincere when he thanked Jens for the opportunity and told him he was happy to be on his team.
I think both the Diaz brothers are rather respectful, but you have to earn from them instead of just getting it for nothing.
any inside info?
did the Diaz brothers start at the same time?
Why does NAte seem to have a better takedown game then Nick, skill or just preference?
btw that triangle is a top10 MMA moment IMO
If you like Nate Bill, then I like him also:icon_chee
I want to let everyone know that Nathan and Nick are really good guys. There is no public relations specialists at our school. it is what it is. They are honest fighters. No B.S.
I think they started around the same time. I took 5 years off (during the dark days of MMA) I came back after the Nick/Lawler and the Terrel/Lindland fight. That's when our team got put on the map. I met Nathan about 4 1/2 years ago when he borrowed my sneakers to do some boxing rounds.
Nick is more serious. Always talking about triathlons and organic food. Nathan is always joking around laughing. Nathan always shows me what he's working on when we roll. Nick is an awesome older brother. He's always looking out for Nathan.
They mainly train in Stockton and I mainly train at our academy in Pleasant Hill. (about 1 hr. 15 min away) So I don't get to train with them as much as I'd like to.
I'm also a 41 year old second grade teacher and they are professional fighters in their early 20's. So it's not like we are always hanging out but we are definitely teammates. They talk about our team a lot. They are very loyal and dedicated fighters. It's an honor to be a part of their team.
I don't know of any other sport where a hobbyist gets to interact and train with professional level athletes.
It motivates me to stay healthy and keep training.
Well...neither of them wrestled in high school. Their best takedown is a 1-2 combination. lol
They're still working on their game.
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