List of Rickson Gracie Black Belts

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I was reading the thread about Rickson working with Rener and Ryron. @lechin stated he couldn't think of any champions that Rickson created. Which is ridiculous. Kron, Pedro Sauer, Dave Kama etc etc

I figured there would be a lineage of everyone who got a black belt from Rickson and then who promoted someone else to black belt. I googled it and could not find one. Does anyone have this or does anyone have specific examples of Black Belts of Rickson's Black Belts?
 
I heard rickson rarely trained kron and left it up to guys like Henry Akins. That true?
 
Maybe in class but do you think his very young youth Rickson didn't play all the time. I know when Rockson died he disengaged but foundation is set and sure they spent time together
 
Luiz Claudio and Thiago Veiga. Luiz won black feather 2 at Master's Worlds a couple years ago. Thiago did very well competing in Brazil, not sure how he's done in the States.
 
You mean something like this. I think this list is pretty old though.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060615215220/bjj.org/lineage.html


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Exactly. Dang I wish someone kept this going and used something besides a pencil to do it.

Thank you.
 
Was at Pride GP 2000 said:
I was reading the thread about Rickson working with Rener and Ryron. @lechin stated he couldn't think of any champions that Rickson created. Which is ridiculous. Kron, Pedro Sauer, Dave Kama etc etc

I figured there would be a lineage of everyone who got a black belt from Rickson and then who promoted someone else to black belt. I googled it and could not find one. Does anyone have this or does anyone have specific examples of Black Belts of Rickson's Black Belts?
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Dave Kama
Henry Akins
Chris Saunders
Kron
Limao Herdia
Fabio Santos
Carlao Valente
Pedro Sauer

who else..?
 
fittycentguard said:
Dave Kama
Henry Akins
Chris Saunders
Kron
Limao Herdia
Fabio Santos
Carlao Valente
Pedro Sauer

who else..?
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I think what's cool is Dean Lister, Lloyd Irvin, Gabriel Gangzaga are 2 layers deep. If this was current it would be awesome.

Roylers list is pretty damn good
 
I remember back in the day there was a site that had fairly up to date BJJ lineage. Thinking late 90s. It was bjj.org
 
Rickson didn't create any champions? Not sure if serious. A few actually. But look no further than Marcelo Behring. He won everything there was to win in his time. It would be nice if Gracie haters would check history before commenting.

And don't think for a moment that Kron is not Rickson's product. Of course he had other instructors and partners. Rickson himself did. They all trained together and he didn't learn only from Helio. Same with Korn. But Rickson is undoubtedly his biggest influence. Besides, Akins is also a Rickson product himself. Even if he had trained Kron alone it would still be Rickson's style.
 
Octavio de Almeda didn't get his black belt from Rickson. He got it from his father, Octavio de Almeida Sr who is a George Gracie black belt.
 
Rado said:
Rickson didn't create any champions? Not sure if serious. A few actually. But look no further than Marcelo Behring. He won everything there was to win in his time. It would be nice if Gracie haters would check history before commenting.

And don't think for a moment that Kron is not Rickson's product. Of course he had other instructors and partners. Rickson himself did. They all trained together and he didn't learn only from Helio. Same with Korn. But Rickson is undoubtedly his biggest influence. Besides, Akins is also a Rickson product himself. Even if he had trained Kron alone it would still be Rickson's style.
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Jorge Pereira was a beast too. He's Leo Dalla's master.
 
fittycentguard said:
Dave Kama
Henry Akins
Chris Saunders
Kron
Limao Herdia
Fabio Santos
Carlao Valente
Pedro Sauer

who else..?
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Luiz Palhares. I believe Rickson also promoted others who were formerly his cousin, Rolls' students after his death.
 
I believe Ari Bolden is a Rickson BB.
 
Nice list but Carlos Gracie and all his brothers granted themselves black belts. I guess it's possible that Helio and George were promoted by Carlos as he was 11 and 9 years older than them respectively. Luis Franca was a contemporary of Carlos and f he received a black belt it was from his Japanese instructor and not Carlos Gracie or anyone else. It is likely he studied before and longer with Maeda and/or his other students than Carlos did. Also from what I've gathered many who became hooked by Jiu Jitsu ended up studying with various instructors. George Gracie and others learned from people they competed against in catchascatchcan as well as judoka, wrestlers and other Japanese calling what they taught Jiu Jitsu. They were all sent abroad by the Kodokan(Judo) to popularize their new art and the term Judo was embraced. I do think that it was distributed to those who did not or could not train long term as "Jutsu" though. As we all know, "Do" was a system of living complete with philosophy as well as something to build good health physically. Remember Kano took out all the most dangerous techniques or modified them(throws did not focus on breaking arms or other joints but merely served as hooks) .. the same throws as taught in Japanese Jujutsu's aim was to break as well as throw. If you train Judo today you know this or if you can get a hold of any jujutsu books they usually point out the judo way as opposed to the jujutsu way of throwing. Miyama Ryu books are a good example.
 
My master Megaton is under Rickson gracie....
 
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