Elections Liberal tears and meltdown thread

[Fergelmince]

Or they could get deported and cross the border again. Repubs always talk about protecting the border literally every campaign season and Repub voters fall for it every time. Get a conservative host, talk about illegal immigration, show old immigration related footage, highlight a serious crime by an illegal immigrant or group of immigrants, show how "bad" bigger cities are, repeat cycle until the base is fired up. Yet, Bush 2 was President for 8 years and Obama deported more people than Trump or Biden, and immigration and the border still is not fixed.

Simmer down son.

Dems always want to brag about Obama deporting illegals but always forget illegal immigration was at a cumulative all time high under Clinton, reached SIXTY YEAR LOWS under Trump and then Biden set a new single year all time high for illegal immigration.

 

[LMP]

I didn't advocate it. I was making a joke, and you ran to the Mods like the pussy you are.

And like I told the Mod who gave me the Yellow: in one month, I'll be off Yellows. And the Orange Skull will still be your President Elect.

Just an FYI the trolling rules still apply to the WR.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Repeat your joke for everyone else to see lol.

I dare you

Big talk from a Crybaby piss belt. You blame the mods you whiney ass victim.

Lol, I'm the victim? You're the one crying about. "muh concentration camps!"

It's gonna be so much fun watching you bitches cry about crap like, "human rights" for the next four years.

 

[Rational Poster]

Simmer down son.

Dems always want to brag about Obama deporting illegals but always forget illegal immigration was at a cumulative all time high under Clinton, shrunk under Trump and then Biden set a new single year all time high for illegal immigration.

Encounters are not crossings, hope this helps.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Oh god... please let that be fake... it has to be fake right?

Has Matt Walsh got a new disguise?

 

[Darkavius]

Simmer down son.

Dems always want to brag about Obama deporting illegals but always forget illegal immigration was at a cumulative all time high under Clinton, shrunk under Trump and then Biden set a new single year all time high for illegal immigration.

What exactly is your point? No one is bragging about Obama. The point is under Repub tickets a main talking point every election season is illegal immigration. Repubs have had the office half of the time since 2000 and even with Dems deporting too no party has fixed the border. Additionally, all the states closest to the border have Repub Governors except two: Arizona and New Mexico. Guess what? No fixed border or immigration. So why does everyone think Trump is going fix the border now? Repub voters are just going in an endless loop regarding this issue, and then a couple years from now the same cycle will repeat itself.

 

[Fergelmince]

What exactly is your point? No one is bragging about Obama. The point is under Repub tickets a main talking point every election season is illegal immigration. Repubs have had the office half of the time since 2000 and even with Dems deporting too no party has fixed the border. Additionally, all the states closest to the border have Repub Governors except two: Arizona and New Mexico. Guess what? No fixed border or immigration. So why does everyone think Trump is going fix the border now? Repub voters are just going in an endless loop regarding this issue.

Yes, YOU are bragging about Obama as if he's the standard for immigration policy. Trump isn't your average Republican, so claiming Republicans are complicit in loose immigration policy doesn't apply here.

Apparently you didn't see the chart so here it is again. You can't argue with Trump's numbers.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Aww. It' s so cute you think the law actually matters.

Carded!?

 

[Darkavius]

Yes, YOU are bragging about Obama as if he's the standard for immigration policy. Trump isn't your average Republican, so claiming Republicans are complicit in loose immigration policy doesn't apply here.

Apparently you didn't see the chart so here it is again. You can't argue with Trump's numbers.

Listen to your argument. I said Obama deported more immigrants than Trump or Biden. None of that was bragging and none of that was saying Obama was the standard. Those are your words, not mine. It was stating a fact. Also, in your previous argument you went all way back to Clinton. So in your argument you are going back to the late 90's but somehow between the 90's and now Repubs are not complicit in loose immigration policy? You do realize that Repubs controlled much of the government at the end of Clinton's second term, right? You do also realize that Bush 2 was President from 2000 to 2008, right? Then Trump was President from 2016 to 2020? So in all those years did the border not exist? Were Repubs not campaigning off of border issues?

The border has been an issue for decades and it has never been fixed under any party (same point I made above) and it is used every election cycle to galvanize Repubs for votes.

 

[Fergelmince]

Listen to your argument. I said Obama deported more immigrants than Trump or Biden. None of that was bragging and none of that was saying Obama was the standard. Those are your words, not mine. It was stating a fact. Also, in your previous argument you went all way back to Clinton. So in your argument you are going back to the late 90's but somehow between the 90's and now Repubs are not complicit in loose immigration policy? You do realize that Repubs controlled much of the government at the end of Clinton's second term, right? You do also realize that Bush 2 was President from 2000 to 2008, right? Then Trump was President from 2016 to 2020? So in all those years did the border not exist? Were Repubs not campaigning off of border issues?

The border has been an issue for decades and it has never been fixed under any party (same point I made above) and it is used every election cycle to galvanize Repubs for votes.

The border WAS MUCH LESS OF AN ISSUE UNDER TRUMP, as can be seen in the chart you keep avoiding, and TRUMP is in office again. What part of that can you not wrap your head around???

 

[Fedor>Cain]

Lol, I'm the victim? You're the one crying about. "muh concentration camps!"

It's gonna be so much fun watching you bitches cry about crap like, "human rights" for the next four years.

Who's whining and who's crying? So far you cried about getting reported, sent a whiney ass message to a mod, and you've blamed everyone but yourself. If that's not a victim complex, then what is?

Back to the topic at hand:

Do you think that's what they're going to do?

None of you guys ever give an answer for how you think 20 million people can be deported.

So far I've gotten:

1) Let the cops go Kent state on them - your words

2) @Croo67 thinks they'll leave if you ask them nicely

We are talking logistics here. How do you transport 20 million people to other countries and keep track of it? It's not like all these people are all Mexican either. It's not like we can just load them up in vans and drop them off in Mexico or Canada lol. If we do deport them, those people gotta be put in camps. How else are you going to gather them up and track them? Where you gonna put them up? Are we gonna round them up and put them in hotels and wait for them to be transported? You gonna take them by plane? Maybe big cruise ships on the coast? I'm literally just trying to wrap my head around on the US government is going to move 20 million people from point A to point B.

You guys constantly complain about how the government is inept and how much waste the government has. What do you think a project of this size is going to entail and how can you trust the government to not absolutely fuck this up in spectacular fashion?

it is extremely easy to get guns in the United States, legally and illegally. What happens when these people start to arm up and say fuck it? They've got nothing left to lose at that point if you are just shipping them somewhere to be homeless.

 

[TheGreatA]

The border WAS MUCH LESS OF AN ISSUE UNDER TRUMP, as can be seen in the chart you keep avoiding, and TRUMP is in office again. What part of that can you not wrap your head around???

Obama and Trump were the border kings for the U.S.

 

[Zazen]

I'm a Latino that voted for Trump. If you hate me for excercising my rights to vote for whomever tf I choose as a free citizen in the greatest nation on earth, I think you are the villain.

If you carry water for these multi-millionaire elite talking heads on TV that are broadcasting for a very select group of millionaires and billionaires that don't give a fk about you or the working class while they put a target on me and my families backs, you are the villain

Lmao, so you voted for Trump and you’re scolding the guy for “carrying water” for millionaires. You voted for a fucking billionaire backed by the richest billionaire and whose VP pick is backed by another billionaire. All while they are on a podcast together laughing out loud how they fired workers and didn’t pay overtime. Yikes dude maybe stay out of politics

 

[UberHere]

Encounters are not crossings, hope this helps.

Did the 10 million new welfare recipients that were bussed all across the country from border states during Biden’s term cross or were they just encounters?

I don’t think is the hill you want to die on.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

imagine paying someone to shave your head lol. Can buy an electric razor for like 15 bucks.

 

[Zazen]

I don't hate you or anyone in this country and in fact I feel genuine. Love and Good Will towards all of you. Please try to read what I actually say and don't import meanings into it.

I've also been aware of corporate money controlling our government for as long as you have.

But Trump isn't a solution to it. He's just part of the problem. Trump is every bit a part of the swamp as any other corporate politician Republican or Democrat with the added extreme danger of being a malignant narcissist.

For anyone with wisdom, this election was not between a Democrat and a Republican. This election is between or was between a Democrat and a profoundly mentally sick malignant narcissist.

You have all voted an unstable, dangerous human being into office and while it's not a guarantee that something terrible will go astray, it is an absolute guarantee that it could under Trump's leadership.

But even if he just acts as usual, he will continue to divide people against one another and divide the country and sow hatred and discontent and distrust and he will continue to try to harm people and then sit back and enjoy watching the harm he has created.

Sometimes you guys will say Trump is just trolling and I think you don't understand that when you have the bully pulpit and you are the president of the United States. Trolling is a deeply egregious act not to be laughed at or used as an excuse, but you have all lost the plot and have no idea who he is or the dangers that he poses.

Brexit did a ton of damage to the UK. America is going to get much worse than that if Trump even comes through with half of his promises. Based on his cabinet picks so far he may actually be serious about deporting tens of millions of people. I don’t know how anyone could whine about today’s economy and then vote for a guy who wants to tariff all Chinese goods and deport millions of people they contribute to our economy. It’s a disaster. I think Americans have had it good for so long that they can’t even entertain the idea of something that bad happening to them. Nearly every person I talk to from the UK regrets that decision yet it had a lot of support at the time. The next four years will have a lot of people wishing they went with the other choice. Well maybe not, seems we don’t learn from our mistakes. Maybe if things go terribly a better candidate will come out of this in 4 years

 

[Rational Poster]

Did the 10 million new welfare recipients that were bussed all across the country from border states during Biden’s term cross or were they just encounters?

I don’t think is the hill you want to die on.

I mean I can't die on hills you just make up.

 

[Darkavius]

The border WAS MUCH LESS OF AN ISSUE UNDER TRUMP, as can be seen in the chart you keep avoiding, and TRUMP is in office again. What part of that can you not wrap your head around???

Avoiding what exactly? You're literally making a nothing argument and just trying to tell me how great Trump is for the border. I'm glad you like Trump. None of my original argument was debunked by your graphic no matter how much you repost it. I said:

-Or they could get deported and cross the border again.
This will continue to happen because there is no way to police the entire border with resources spread thin as they are currently.

-Repubs always talk about protecting the border literally every campaign season and Repub voters fall for it every time. Get a conservative host, talk about illegal immigration, show old immigration related footage, highlight a serious crime by an illegal immigrant or group of immigrants, show how "bad" bigger cities are, repeat cycle until the base is fired up.
We know this is true. We see it every election season and it is almost exclusively used by Repubs to get votes.

-Yet, Bush 2 was President for 8 years and Obama deported more people than Trump or Biden, and immigration and the border still is not fixed.
Your argument about sixty year lows does not mean the immigration issue is fixed. If it was fixed Trump would not be making it a highlight of his campaign. You keep showing me a chart but I don't seem to see your data where your show me it is fixed based on my original statement.

 

[Confucamus]

Who's whining and who's crying? So far you cried about getting reported, sent a whiney ass message to a mod, and you've blamed everyone but yourself. If that's not a victim complex, then what is?

Back to the topic at hand:

Do you think that's what they're going to do?

None of you guys ever give an answer for how you think 20 million people can be deported.

So far I've gotten:

1) Let the cops go Kent state on them - your words

2) @Croo67 thinks they'll leave if you ask them nicely

We are talking logistics here. How do you transport 20 million people to other countries and keep track of it? It's not like all these people are all Mexican either. It's not like we can just load them up in vans and drop them off in Mexico or Canada lol. If we do deport them, those people gotta be put in camps. How else are you going to gather them up and track them? Where you gonna put them up? Are we gonna round them up and put them in hotels and wait for them to be transported? You gonna take them by plane? Maybe big cruise ships on the coast? I'm literally just trying to wrap my head around on the US government is going to move 20 million people from point A to point B.

You guys constantly complain about how the government is inept and how much waste the government has. What do you think a project of this size is going to entail and how can you trust the government to not absolutely fuck this up in spectacular fashion?

it is extremely easy to get guns in the United States, legally and illegally. What happens when these people start to arm up and say fuck it? They've got nothing left to lose at that point if you are just shipping them somewhere to be homeless.

So, you're cool with illegal aliens fighting violently to stay here? I don't think you should worry about the logistics of it. Hopefully, it's done in a peaceful manner. But they have zero rights to stand their ground and fight to stay in a country they entered illegally.

 

[Zazen]

So, you're cool with illegal aliens fighting violently to stay here? I don't think you should worry about the logistics of it. Hopefully, it's done in a peaceful manner. But they have zero rights to stand their ground and fight to stay in a country they entered illegally.

Peacefully? Lmao, these people have kids. Will you peacefully pack it up and make your kids life shit and put them in danger? I don’t think so. Yes there will be violence if this happens. It’s the most obvious thing ever. I’m in support of a strong border but for those that are already here just give them a path to citizenship