Left vs Right, in housing

[Social Distance Warrior]

In other words, you can aggregate accurate d. Ta to make it less meaningful, add an inaccurate statistic and misrepresent the findings to paint a picture that suits your emotional liking.

AWESOME!

Exactly..

IIt's a damn shame when facts aren't even able to change ones mind. They would rather stick with their dogmatic opinions and perception of the world.

 

[MardyBum]

Manson got slapped down and Opie or whatever can he is came in and picked the ball right back up.

 

[UpaLoompa]

Dont feel bad, people like us have something called common sense, unfortunately today its not so common. We know this is a result of government intervention over the last decade. Supply and demad being used is very funny. Nobody is rushing to buy that house. Maybe an ocean front property, or something in a gated community could use supply and demand as a reason but not for the house you showed. There isnt a line of bank offers for that dump.

Since we started growing grains people have aggregated and generally found living in cities preferable, bigger cities being the most attractive. It is hard to attribute something that's been common over the last 6000-8000 years as being due to government intervention over the last decade.

City living was higher under Reagan and Caesar. Hard to blame modern democrats or the liberal "welfare state" for that.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Since we started growing grains people have aggregated and generally found living in cities preferable, bigger cities being the most attractive. It is hard to attribute something that's been common over the last 6000-8000 years as being due to government intervention over the last decade.

City living was higher under Reagan and Caesar. Hard to blame modern democrats or the liberal "welfare state" for that.

That's certainly true, but I do think that to be perfectly honest, policy does contribute to the magnitude of the difference (that is, yes, LA is going to be a more desirable place to live than anywhere in AR no matter what, but if it had more tall buildings, the price difference would be reduced somewhat).

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

Caesar is actually a great example of people flocking to the city due to government policies.

By importing so many slaves from their conquered lands, the wealthy land owners were able to outcompete most poor farmers who then had no choice but to move to the city.

I'm not one to take an eat the rich angle, but gross wealth inequality does seem to contribute to the downfall of societies.

 

[UpaLoompa]

Of course policies play a role, this is what I was responding to:
"(cities being more expensive and crowded) is a result of government intervention over the last decade"

 

[Jack V Savage]

Of course policies play a role, this is what I was responding to:
"(cities being more expensive and crowded) is a result of government intervention over the last decade"

OK, obviously RR is an idiot.

I guess the thing is that I think something can be done to reduce costs in cities, and given that it's my "side" that normally opposes good policy in that area, I'm particularly apt to want to mention it (because of my aversion to all the hackery we see here).

 

[UpaLoompa]

OK, obviously RR is an idiot.

I guess the thing is that I think something can be done to reduce costs in cities, and given that it's my "side" that normally opposes good policy in that area, I'm particularly apt to want to mention it (because of my aversion to all the hackery we see here).

Fair enough. Care to detail?

 

[Jack V Savage]

Fair enough. Care to detail?

The short answer is that regulations in most desirable cities prevent increased building density.

For more detail, see:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/20/how-housing-prices-burden-the-economy/

(which is an interview with the author of a pretty short book on the subject)

http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/some-critical-thoughts-on-the-rent-is-too-damn-high/

(somewhat mixed review of the same book)

http://www.urbanophile.com/2011/10/09/review-the-gated-city-by-ryan-avent/

(a review of another short book on the subject).

 

[UpaLoompa]

The short answer is that regulations in most desirable cities prevent increased building density.

For more detail, see:

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/20/how-housing-prices-burden-the-economy/

Thanks, I read a lot of his pieces on Slate.

 

[Stokanator]

Huh, I wonder if TS politically leans to the right or the left?

I'd bet my bottom dollar the person who owns thr 1st house is "not a redneck backwoods toothless barefooted hillbilly".

The housing market is priced just like any other commodity, it is directly related to supply and demand. California in general is a place where many people want or would like to live. People flock to California for the beaches, because gay marriage is legal, it's highly progressive which is a big draw for some people, and the biggest factor is it has just about the best whether you'll find on the planet.

As for Arkansas, well............it's Arkansas.

 

[UpaLoompa]

The housing market is priced just like any other commodity, it is directly related to supply and demand. California in general is a place where many people want or would like to live. People flock to California for the beaches, because gay marriage is legal, it's highly progressive which is a big draw for some people, and the biggest factor is it has just about the best whether you'll find on the planet.

Wow you're special.

 

[ChainFlow]

Huh, I wonder if TS politically leans to the right or the left?

Check his posting history. He's about as far right as you.

 

[Jukai]

Dont feel bad, people like us have something called common sense, unfortunately today its not so common. We know this is a result of government intervention over the last decade. Supply and demad being used is very funny. Nobody is rushing to buy that house. Maybe an ocean front property, or something in a gated community could use supply and demand as a reason but not for the house you showed. There isnt a line of bank offers for that dump.

People like me and you are like Germans with integrity during Hitlers reign, even though they didnt believe in Hitlers plans they were the minotiry and would have been called fools and laughed at by the majority of the country. Sometimes the minority is right and the majority are so very wrong and so far off they cant tell.

Fuck em and feed em fish heads....

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When people like Lucas and Stokanator are like "Haha, you're a right wing lunatic, TS" then you KNOW this is a very bad thread.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Out of curiosity, I checked Trulia for Detroit.

Here's a 7-bedroom, 5-bathroom place for $375K:

http://www.trulia.com/property/3119204337-19160-Woodston-Rd-Detroit-MI-48203#photo-1

 

[Final Rehab]

Come on Manson75, get back to your thread. It's like you dropped a turd in the pool and jumped out waiting to see who swims into it. Not cool man.

 

[MTRio]

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[GenuineGeez]

Best thread I've seen in a while.So I must laugh...then, due to me being a Realtor answer the question in a serious way.

Supply and demand (as most are saying) is exactly what is in play here. But what makes demand so high, my clients pay $350k for a shit-hole?? Jobs.

Lots and lots of jobs. People working can afford homes to rent or buy. But if they lived in Arkansas, they wouldn't have the same job/pay as they do in the LA area.

If you have 200,000 people live in a condensed neighborhood, that means you have that many (probably more) trying to live where you are.

In Arkansas, you might have a few hundred.