Leaving Neverland...

[Bluckka Bluckka Bloaoow]

But he openly says he was molested by others in Hollywood.

and yet many still know him mostly for being one of the children MJ molested.

 

[Bluckka Bluckka Bloaoow]

That's not what you were saying initially, bro.

well feel free to tell me what I was actually saying so I know what we're talking about.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

and yet many still know him mostly for being one of the children MJ molested.

Lol no that's not what he's known as

 

[MikeMcMann]

did you read the post I quoted?

D'uh, I wrote the post you quoted.

and you're wrong, plenty of gay men have wives and families but aren't into women, aren't bisexual and never will be no matter how many women they have sex with. I know a few lesbians with children and they've never been into men either.

Sure but gay men having a 'beard' was typically a function of fearing societal condemnation for being gay or in living in place where they cannot comfortable be out.

You are colluding two very different things here. The gay guy is trying to project a socially acceptable life in his community for work and community reasons.

There is no reason to be a hetero phile but hide being a gay phile. Both are considered abhorrent with no line of separation, so your example does not work.


So my point stands ...

"Not sure why you are trying to distinguish between hetero and Homo directed philia?? They are both philia and if you act on either you are 'actually into kids'."

I do think Michael Jackson is a though personally

With all due respect what people think personally does not really matter though.

 

[Infernal Plane]

Serious post:

I thought Corey Feelsbadman was famous for being molested by MJ. Is he backpedaling now or was this never the case?

 

[Bluckka Bluckka Bloaoow]

D'uh, I wrote the post you quoted.

Sure but gay men having a 'beard' was typically a function of fearing societal condemnation for being gay or in living in place where they cannot comfortable be out.

You are colluding two very different things here. The gay guy is trying to project a socially acceptable life in his community for work and community reasons.

There is no reason to be a hetero phile but hide being a gay phile. Both are considered abhorrent with no line of separation, so your example does not work.


So my point stands ...

"Not sure why you are trying to distinguish between hetero and Homo directed philia?? They are both philia and if you act on either you are 'actually into kids'."



With all due respect what people think personally does not really matter though.

So you can't concede there could be a situation where someone has sex with a minor and is not actually attracted to children? what is the classification for those who specifically want to have sex with children then?

 

[Bluckka Bluckka Bloaoow]

Lol no that's not what he's known as

You'd be surprised how many people haven't seen The Goonies bro

 

[MikeMcMann]

I've used this example prior.

WIthout a doubt some top Athletes, Rock Stars and Actors will be rapists and bad people. Lets say the number for sake of example is 1 in 200. That still means a lot of bad dudes.


On the flip side however, some of the women these guys sleep with will be bad women willing to lie and seize any opportunity to gain financially even if it means lying to ruin the reputation of a man so you can sue him or his estate. Lets say that number is 1 in 200 for sake of argument.


What we know is that a famous man, who wants to live the 'rock star' party life for even just a few years can easily sleep with in excess of 200 women a year.

Think about that. That means every single guy has one or many women in their past who would look to seize on any opportunity to profit and history has shown them that the path to success is simply agreeing with another's accusation and saying metoo.

That is a powerful enticement to lie and pile on.

And again I am clear there ARE bad guys who may do very bad things but also pointing out the odds of false profit or revenge driven accusations are far higher.

 

[Krixes]

MJ was just a giant kid imo... Yeah he was weird and awkward but I don't think he was molesting anybody. I don't think that dude cared about sex, with anyone.

 

[MikeMcMann]

and yet many still know him mostly for being one of the children MJ molested.

I don't know about 'mostly' but that shows you how people believe what they WANT to believe regardless of the facts.

 

[MikeMcMann]

So you can't concede there could be a situation where someone has sex with a minor and is not actually attracted to children? what is the classification for those who specifically want to have sex with children then?

No.

phile.

 

[Bluckka Bluckka Bloaoow]

MJ was just a giant kid imo... Yeah he was weird and awkward but I don't think he was molesting anybody. I don't think that dude cared about sex, with anyone.

that's not true, he rented latino males for sex regularly at least before he developed further issues "downstairs".

 

[Bluckka Bluckka Bloaoow]

No.

phile.

so you get drunk, wake up next to a 14 yr old (or anyone 2 yrs below the legal age of consent) and you go from being a heterosexual male to a phile instantly, and that's a permanent state for life?

 

[SamSchmidt]

Clearly I believe him. Because of the caps

 

[dawnignited]

I believe him.

 

[SoberAwakening]

Feldman is a dude who has called out philes in Hollywood numerous times. If he's defending MJ, there might be some merit to it.

Again, every situation could be different, but I just don't believe these dudes. That means MJ would've had to pay off NUMEROUS people in his lifetime, to include the FBI who did a decade long investigation. I don't know about the other dude, but I don't trust Robson at all. He lied under oath about this whole thing.

 

[MikeMcMann]

so you get drunk, wake up next to a 14 yr old (or anyone 2 yrs below the legal age of consent) and you go from being a heterosexual male to a phile instantly, and that's a permanent state for life?

haha. You are so struggling to make a point that you now are going off on wild tangents.

No, if you are drunk beyond knowing or consent, or drugged beyond knowing or consent, or lying unconscious in a hospital bed sedated and someone does something to you, that does not make you gay or a phile.

If you have intent and the ability to make an informed decision and you CHOOSE a child or a same sex partner or opposite sex partner that is what makes you a phile or gay or hetero. it is you exercising and acting upon your choice.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Feldman is a dude who has called out philes in Hollywood numerous times. If he's defending MJ, there might be some merit to it.

Again, every situation could be different, but I just don't believe these dudes. That means MJ would've had to pay off NUMEROUS people in his lifetime, to include the FBI who did a decade long investigation. I don't know about the other dude, but I don't trust Robson at all. He lied under oath about this whole thing.

And paying off people only works until they spend that money and become desperate again. Then they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by bringing it out in the open, including details of the 'payoff'. A threat of being sued means nothing to them as they have nothing.

 

[lukeuidswords]

The documentary is insane, the level of detail is absolutely relentless

 

[Amerikuracana]

I could see MJ having some relationships where he "got off" from the innocence of them, and child-like friendship, which is in fact more sincere than adult friendship in some ways... I could also see him having one or two special kids he blew or butt tongued when he got the special chance... I could see that second one being made up because people need money, as well.