Leaving Neverland...

Did Michael Jackson sexually abuse children?

  • Yes, he did.

  • No, he did not.

  • I don't know.

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houjebek said:
Uh yea that does mean he was innocent.o_O

So we are just gonna accuse a innocent person over and over untill we someday might get "lucky" and "win".
What not will happen because they could'nt find anything back then...:rolleyes:


Again, believe all you want, if you have no prove you have nothing...

It's a very sad thing people just can't let it go. Where is smoke is often fire. But he was declared innocent.
People should respect that.
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You need to read up on how the law works. A court not finding you guilty doesn't mean you are innocent of the crime. See the OJ trial.
 
Here is what we do know.

He had no sexual relationships with women. Everyone that was around him said this.
He wasn't interested in female children.
He only surrounded himself with little boys.

That doesn't look good and it will take some convincing to get me to reverse my opinion that he didn't have an unhealthy attraction to little boys.

This guy could have gotten any women in the world, literally. So maybe he was gay. But there were no men in his life either.
 
A.A. Riggs said:
That's not compelling, Clarence. My knee swells due to barometric pressure preceding a storm -- does that mean my knee stands a good chance at becoming Channel 7's meteorologist? THINK, MAN.

I am not interested in the bare minimum it takes to qualify for whatever criticism you levy. I don't want people to cite definitions for me, or generic statistics, or pose irrelevant questions that have sweet FA to do with this topic entirely. It proves nothing.

If the bare minimum is what you're fine with, go nuts. And if you want to give me the finger because there's nothing else you got to say? Let me help you:

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(That finger is for me! ME! And it is victorious over me and my faulty logic!)

I don't know why you pretend that real proof isn't a necessary component to adequately assessing a situation. I don't know why you would think generic stats would sway anyone, let alone me.


I'm not sure about your police work, detective. The bolded part was my entire point.

Watch his next question:

Goalposts have moved but the logic is still lacking. He's asking the question; this is his logic. My answer would have nothing to do with whether anyone was guilty or innocent.

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(This one's also for me...)
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Dude I didn't miss your point at all. It just held zero value. You tried to sarcastically connect the :eek::eek::eek::eek:philia nature of MJ to a random sherdog poster by saying that you wouldn't let your kid sleep in the sherdog poster's bed either, so what does that say about him? The entire point here is that MJ wanted to sleep with small children while the sherdog poster does not. There is no connection so your point didn't make a lick of sense as far as the discussion goes.

If a grown man sleeping in bed is what you call the bare minimum to criticize, then I don't know what to tell you. Sleeping in bed with children is not the bare minimum of anything. It should be setting off alarm bells in any normal human's brain. Some people are just more naive than others like the parents on that 'Abducted in Plain Sight' documentary that let their daughter's abuser sleep in bed with her 3 nights a week as part of his 'therapy'. I guess they didn't have enough proof to not let him sleep in bed with her?

I obviously have no proof that MJ did it or did not. I'm just saying a grown man in bed with little boys tips the scale way over to the 'most likely a :eek::eek::eek::eek:' side than it does the other way.
 
Tropodan said:
He had no sexual relationships with women. Everyone that was around him said this.
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Not true.

Lisa Marie Presley has stated their marriage was not sexless.

Michael's bodyguards have stated he had multiple girlfriends.


But, on the other side of that coin... I'm curious as to why the kids he had with his wife in the late 90s were not biologically his - she was artificially inseminated with another man's sperm.

The argument that Jackson was chemically castrated has not been completely discredited, IMO. If true, it would mean everybody is lying - his accusers, his ex-wife, and bodyguards.
 
ANY grown ass man that wants to habitually sleep with little boys is a fucking :eek::eek::eek::eek:phile. FACT
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Not true.

Lisa Marie Presley has stated their marriage was not sexless.

Michael's bodyguards have stated he had multiple girlfriends.


But, on the other side of that coin... I'm curious as to why the kids he had with his wife in the late 90s were not biologically his - she was artificially inseminated with another man's sperm.

The argument that Jackson was chemically castrated has not been completely discredited, IMO. If true, it would mean everybody is lying - his accusers, his ex-wife, and bodyguards.
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Hahahaha!!

Presley was a publicity stunt to show he wasnt into boys dude.

Was it proven those aren't his kids? I thought that was just a rumor?
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Not true.

Lisa Marie Presley has stated their marriage was not sexless.

Michael's bodyguards have stated he had multiple girlfriends.


But, on the other side of that coin... I'm curious as to why the kids he had with his wife in the late 90s were not biologically his - she was artificially inseminated with another man's sperm.

The argument that Jackson was chemically castrated has not been completely discredited, IMO. If true, it would mean everybody is lying - his accusers, his ex-wife, and bodyguards.
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I'm guessing the castration narrative is a defense theory. If he was castrated when he was young, why doesnt the family admit it now and clear his name? This is very very damaging to the family.
 
Tropodan said:
I'm guessing the castration narrative is a defense theory. If he was castrated when he was young, why doesnt the family admit it now and clear his name? This is very very damaging to the family.
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He was never castrated and is one of the dumbest things people talk about.
Complete horseshit.
 
Tropodan said:
She was probably paid a lot of money. Plus it put her in the spotlight, it was micheal Jackson after all.
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Probably...
Maybe...
Perhaps...

(Qualifiers)

Attention...
Money...
Status...

(Universal motivatiors)

Those qualifiers with those universal motivators make for cliche theories made for the tabloids.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
Probably...
Maybe...
Perhaps...

(Qualifiers)

Attention...
Money...
Status...

(Universal motivatiors)

Those qualifiers with those universal motivators make for cliche theories made for the tabloids.
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Yea I dont pretend to know for sure but it's very suspicious to me that he married her right after the 93 allegations.
 
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