Leaving Neverland...

Did Michael Jackson sexually abuse children?

  • Yes, he did.

  • No, he did not.

  • I don't know.

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HereticBD said:
It's not just a fanboy vid though. He categorically refutes their testimony with hard facts that contradicts them.

The "fanboy" video would be the 4 hour documentary appealing to Jackson critics, asserting that he molested kids with nothing but emotional testimony.

I mean, Jackson was a weirdo and maybe it's true, but do we not care about credibility and facts anymore? This witch hunt mentality is disgusting.
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He was a 34 year old man who requested to sleep in the same room as an 8 year old boy for 30 days straight. ya I’m sure they were just playing video games right ...
 
TribalDrumz said:
He was a 34 year old man who requested to sleep in the same room as an 8 year old boy for 30 days straight. ya I’m sure they were just playing video games right ...
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Yeah, and like I've said in the past, Jackson was a special case. He's literally the only person ever, I would give the benefit of the doubt to. He was genuinely imbecilic, like a child. I can believe he was just into hanging out with kids. Unlike say, a George Clooney. If that guy was routinely sleeping with kids, and hanging out with them, I'd likely be less skeptical.

At the end of the day though, nobody knows, so the leap to guilt in the face of contradictory lawful testimony and facts, isn't good. We shouldn't be condemning people of crimes based on feelings. Especially in the face of facts, and victorious lawsuits.
 
TribalDrumz said:
He was a 34 year old man who requested to sleep in the same room as an 8 year old boy for 30 days straight. ya I’m sure they were just playing video games right ...
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MJs room was two stories with 3 bathrooms and multiple beds.
Alot of the time the entire family would stay in his bedroom since it was its own house in a sense
 
HereticBD said:
Yeah, and like I've said in the past, Jackson was a special case. He's literally the only person ever, I would give the benefit of the doubt to. He was genuinely imbecilic, like a child. I can believe he was just into hanging out with kids. Unlike say, a George Clooney. If that guy was routinely sleeping with kids, and hanging out with them, I'd likely be less skeptical.

At the end of the day though, nobody knows, so the leap to guilt in the face of contradictory lawful testimony and facts, isn't good. We shouldn't be condemning people of crimes based on feelings. Especially in the face of facts, and victorious lawsuits.
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Lol
 
Yeah I had the biggest issues with the entire "sleeping in bedroom" shit. But then you hear how big that room is, yeah...
The "Living with Michael Jackson" thing with that kid was incredibly creepy. He keeps talking about sleeping with kids, but then adds how he would sleep on the floor for them to be able to sleep in his bed. It's still fucked up and I just don't know what to think about it.

If you want to watch a 4 hour doc then you should watch that 30min video too. There are some flaws in the documentary, and they have just cut those out of the original now. You can't just cut that shit out. What..
 
DeJulez said:
MJs room was two stories with 3 bathrooms and multiple beds.
Alot of the time the entire family would stay in his bedroom since it was its own house in a sense
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I’m talking about the Safechucks house.. mJ has an obsession with the kids room he wanted to drive there and stay with them.

“ can I play with jimmy tonight “
They went and fucking picked him up and brought him back to his place.. mJ was starting to build his :eek::eek::eek::eek: skills at that point. Neverland was shortly after.
 
Yari said:
Yeah I had the biggest issues with the entire "sleeping in bedroom" shit. But then you hear how big that room is, yeah...
The "Living with Michael Jackson" thing with that kid was incredibly creepy. He keeps talking about sleeping with kids, but then adds how he would sleep on the floor for them to be able to sleep in his bed. It's still fucked up and I just don't know what to think about it.

If you want to watch a 4 hour doc then you should watch that 30min video too. There are some flaws in the documentary, and they have just cut those out of the original now. You can't just cut that shit out. What..
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That Living With Michael Jackson is bullshit.
The full unedited version actually shows that Bashir asked if MJ could bring in a cancer victim that he was friends with.
They kid wasn't even at Neverland
So they flew in Gavin and Bashir edited the video to make it sound like he slept in the bed with them when really he didnt.
Of course most people never got the truth out of it and only got "MJ sleeps with children" instead of "MJ lets them use the bed while he uses the floor in his two story bedroom."
After the media went wild with "MJ has to be raping that boy".
The boys family called MJ and said the press was hounding them so he flew them to stay in his guest house for a few weeks.
Thats when they claimed he was molested, which is obviously bullshit
 
TribalDrumz said:
I’m talking about the Safechucks house.. mJ has an obsession with the kids room he wanted to drive there and stay with them.

“ can I play with jimmy tonight “
They went and fucking picked him up and brought him back to his place.. mJ was starting to build his :eek::eek::eek::eek: skills at that point. Neverland was shortly after.
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I'd have to hear the call, but the documentary has already been proven to doctor some of the audio you hear on the video to make MJ sound like he said things he never did
 
HereticBD said:
You sound poor.
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Yea, he called MJ a disgusting :eek::eek::eek::eek: and said he's happy he is dead.
When we posted up the rebuttal videos he said he didn't care to watch.
Sounds like a guy who wants the truth
 
DeJulez said:
I'd have to hear the call, but the documentary has already been proven to doctor some of the audio you hear on the video to make MJ sound like he said things he never did
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The best part of this documentary is the interviewing showing these guys real emotions for MJ. They loved him, he made their careers. Everything they did for so long revolved around him. Everything. They weren't about to let the guy go to PRISON and also they were the first of the boys.

MJ was 34 years old... that is absolutely insane to want to get that close to an 8 year old boy. Insane. The mom and dad's are the only guilty ones in all of this and could have prevented a lot of MJ's schemes to hang out with them.

If these guys are lying, they deserve Academy Awards right now.
 
To all these people defending MJ, assuming he was still alive would you let your own young child sleep over at his house?
 
TribalDrumz said:
The best part of this documentary is the interviewing showing these guys real emotions for MJ. They loved him, he made their careers. Everything they did for so long revolved around him. Everything. They weren't about to let the guy go to PRISON and also they were the first of the boys.

MJ was 34 years old... that is absolutely insane to want to get that close to an 8 year old boy. Insane. The mom and dad's are the only guilty ones in all of this and could have prevented a lot of MJ's schemes to hang out with them.

If these guys are lying, they deserve Academy Awards right now.
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They've told multiple different stories.
They are liars.
 
DeJulez said:
They've told multiple different stories.
They are liars.
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No they are not. You are delusional,.. defending some 34 year old :eek::eek::eek::eek: licking boys asses while watching Peter Pan. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
elreece said:
To all these people defending MJ, assuming he was still alive would you let your own young child sleep over at his house?
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I wouldn't let my kids sleep at your house. What does that say about you?

Is it "nothing?"
 
Yari said:
Hell no.
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But if he is innocent and not a :eek::eek::eek::eek: why would it be a problem to let your own kid stay the night?

If you are CERTAIN nothing happened then in theory it wouldn't be a big deal your kid having a innocent sleep over?
 
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