Social Lauren Boebert theater pocket pool and transexual discussion

[AnGrYcRoW]

Apparently in England and Wales it’s 6 trans women in women’s prison. Out of 168. The rest are in men’s prison.

Lol , I find it hard to be alarmed about that

 

[terrapin]

Riddle me this. In the last 12 months have you come across any of these so called trans activists without having been notified/directed to them by these other people whom you think are worth listening to? And if so, in what context? More directly, how do you even end up consuming any of their monetized content unless you seek them out?

I never see any of that stuff whatsoever.

Are you full enough to believe that subjective experience is objective reality?

Isn't this the recourse of people without an argument who can't address any positions put forth to them?

It is said by people in this movement that the left has no argument and you guys sure are proving that in spades.

 

[Andy Capp]

Are you full enough to believe that subjective experience is objective reality?

Isn't this the recourse of people without an argument who can't address any positions put forth to them?

It is said by people in this movement that the left has no argument and you guys sure are proving that in spades.

I asked you a question. Your non-answer tells me all I need to know. This is exhausting. You keep attributing misstatements of my positions to me then accusing me of stupid shit.

 

[kflo]

Why not just ask a question rather than lie about me?

I'm in favor for massive prison reform, including not having men and women's prisons.

But that's just a form deflection anyway. why don't you address what I've said?

You rarely addressed anything I've said in this entire discussion frankly.

What you’ve said is that this is a huge issue. I’m explaining to you it’s not. Not in prisons. Not in schools. Not in sports. Not in workplaces. It’s just not. It’s a huge issue online. The biggest issues with trans is about the trans people themselves. Which is a tiny population.

 

[terrapin]

What you’ve said is that this is a huge issue. I’m explaining to you it’s not. Not in prisons. Not in schools. Not in sports. Not in workplaces. It’s just not. It’s a huge issue online. The biggest issues with trans is about the trans people themselves. Which is a tiny population.

You are making the right wing argument not to do anything about it

 

[terrapin]

I asked you a question. Your non-answer tells me all I need to know. This is exhausting. You keep attributing misstatements of my positions to me then accusing me of stupid shit.

Lol.

 

[kflo]

You are making the right wing argument not to do anything about it

The right wing argument is to demonize them, ensure they can’t get treatments, and make sure they have no access to spaces they’ve had / have access in most states.

 

[terrapin]

The right wing argument is to demonize them, ensure they can’t get treatments, and make sure they have no access to spaces they’ve had / have access in most states.

How can that be the case when this isn't even a real issue? That doesn't even matter. That doesn't affect anybody according to you?

The right wing must be doing no harm at all then and you have no right to criticize them under your own criteria.

 

[Loiosh]

Listen to those videos and find out. Especially Helen Joyce who has a PhD in mathematics and crunches all those kinds of numbers

Helen Joyce is problematic at best.

She left journalism entirely to work for Sex Matters, are you familiar with them?

 

[kflo]

How can that be the case when this isn't even a real issue? That doesn't even matter. That doesn't affect anybody according to you?

The right wing must be doing no harm at all then and you have no right to criticize them under your own criteria.

It’s not a major issue, yet the right is trying to take rights away and make life more difficult for the small population of trans people. This is true.

You seem to be moving away from a rational discussion.

 

[terrapin]

It’s not a major issue, yet the right is trying to take rights away and make life more difficult for the small population of trans people. This is true.

You seem to be moving away from a rational discussion.

Well, my position is that it is a big issue and it really does matter. You're the one contradicting yourself and going back and forth.

I think the issue just deserves deep thought and discussion and debate. I think there are philosophical considerations, social issues to consider and legal issues to consider all of which deserve to be fleshed out in public in a nuanced manner.

 

[terrapin]

Helen Joyce is problematic at best.

She left journalism entirely to work for Sex Matters, are you familiar with them?

Yes, I'm very very familiar with her. I appreciate her very well reasoned thinking on this matter

You're approach here is to slay the messenger without ever having read the message. It's hilarious.

But don't start asking me questions. You've ducked about 50 points I've made. The truth is you don't want to have a real discussion. You just want to stay stuck in your little bubble and never think about anything.

 

[Loiosh]

Yes, I'm very very familiar with her. I appreciate her very well reasoned thinking on this matter

You're approach here is to slay the messenger without ever having read the message. It's hilarious.

But don't start asking me questions. You've ducked about 50 points I've made. The truth is you don't want to have a real discussion. You just want to stay stuck in your little bubble and never think about anything.

You and I have barely interacted on this issue, you showed me videos and I watched them. My algorithm has cancer as a result, it's going to be poisoned with anti-trans videos for months.

So I take it you support Sex Matters?

 

[kflo]

Well, my position is that it is a big issue and it really does matter. You're the one contradicting yourself and going back and forth.

I think the issue just deserves deep thought and discussion and debate. I think there are philosophical considerations, social issues to consider and legal issues to consider all of which deserve to be flashed out in public in a nuanced manner.

Sorry but I haven’t contradicted myself at all. I just explained that to you.

here’s some information on the positions from a trans group.

https://transequality.org/issues/resources/transgender-people-and-bathroom-access


It’s not about building separate spaces.

 

[terrapin]

Sorry but I haven’t contradicted myself at all. I just explained that to you.

here’s some information on the positions from a trans group.

https://transequality.org/issues/resources/transgender-people-and-bathroom-access

I don't know why you've posted that it doesn't make any sense to me.

You basically just want to pretend the right has no position at all and the left is correct but there is crazy crazy stuff going on both sides of that debate and that's why a well reasoned discussion has to happen.

Clear I have no sympathy for anybody that wants to take away protections in the workplace for trans people. It should be illegal to discriminate against trans people for being trans in the workplace and for renting apartments, buying homes, getting loans, getting into colleges, etc.

The nuanced debate happens when it gets to shared spaces and women's spaces like bathrooms, prisons, women's shelters, sports teams, etc.

This is where trans rights conflict with women's rights and a healthy debate needs to take place.

 

[terrapin]

You and I have barely interacted on this issue, you showed me videos and I watched them. My algorithm has cancer as a result, it's going to be poisoned with anti-trans videos for months.

So I take it you support Sex Matters?

That's weird seeing as how neither of those women is anti-trans. They have been lied about and accused of being anti-trans by the trans activist community dishonestly complete with threats of violence.

If it's true that your algorithm is poisoned, it's only because of liars on the left and certainly not because of these two women.

If you have a point to make about sex matters, go ahead and make it. Im completely open to new information.

 

[Deleted member 592570]

a fictional Boogie man is who "they" are

The fact is this thread was derailed on post six by a right wing loon , admit you were wrong and move on

Nah he's referring to all the comments on twitter (the posts in OP are from twitter) who are all making the same point @panamaican did about how if you don't like trans people you shouldn't like adults kissing in public.

So yeah it was the left bringing up trannies as usual.

Try again.

 

[kflo]

I don't know why you've posted that it doesn't make any sense to me.

You basically just want to pretend the right has no position at all and the left is correct but there is crazy crazy stuff going on both sides of that debate and that's why a well reasoned discussion has to happen.

Clear I have no sympathy for anybody that wants to take away protections in the workplace for trans people. It should be illegal to discriminate against trans people for being trans in the workplace and for renting apartments, buying homes, getting loans, getting into colleges, etc.

The nuanced debate happens when it gets to shared spaces and women's spaces like bathrooms, prisons, women's shelters, sports teams, etc.

This is where trans rights conflict with women's rights and a healthy debate needs to take place.

You suggested that no change was the position of the right, when their position is to make changes to laws to ensure trans are excluded from the spaces they’ve had access to. And other law changes that are anti-trans including access to treatment.

 

[Andy Capp]

Lol.

That is also not an answer to my question.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Nah he's referring to all the comments on twitter (the posts in OP are from twitter) who are all making the same point @panamaican did about how if you don't like trans people you shouldn't like adults kissing in public.

So yeah it was the left bringing up trannies as usual.

Try again.

Lmao , you're such a clown