Lack of elite boxer at ww history

Masvidal is definitely up there as an MMA boxer, not just in the division but also in the entire UFC.
You've already stated Nick Diaz. Daley is a good boxer with great power.
 
JustOnce said:
...In case Masvidal the lightweight journeyman is brought up, lol no.
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Is this like that time you were taking a shit all over Poirier and said prime Gomi would annihilate him, then after Poirier beat the snot out of Conor you made a thread saying you were so dead wrong about Poirier
 
Masvidal and Robbie Lawler come to mind when I think of good WW boxers
 
R1 of Diaz vs Penn was actually excellent boxing by both fighters, with Penn clearly taking it. Diaz pulled away in 2 and 3 because of better conditioning though.
 
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JustOnce said:
In case Masvidal the lightweight journeyman is brought up, lol no.
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Masvidal is a much better boxer than Diaz, Diaz has great volume, moves with punches, a solid 1-2 and that's about it. Masvidal has much better defense, knock out power, mixes up shots, can throw volume, better footwork.
 
Lawler has some of the best boxing in the sport. You won't find a lot of southpaws who have as good a lead hand or jab as him.
 
Missing : KJ Noons, hunt, page, Daley, holm and Ronda
 
JustOnce said:
We had great boxers in heavyweight like JDS, Fedor, Arlovski, Sergei, Alex and so on.
We had great boxers in lightheavyweight like Gus, Lil Nog, and so on.
We had great boxers in middleweight like Android, Mousasi, Vitor and so on.
We had great boxers in lightweight like Conor, Gomi, BJ, and so on.
We had great boxers in featherweight like Holloway, and so on.
We had great boxers in bantamweight like Cody, and so on.

I feel like the BEST boxer in welterweight history HAS to be Nick Diaz, but even though he's I think the best boxer at welterweight history, I'm sure lots of people would disagree, but I say best boxer at welterweight who would come out on top if they go head to head and who would outbox Nick?,

you know, I feel like the lack of elite boxers in welterweight has to be with the fact that it just used to be a shark tank of elite wrestlers at welterweight. In case Masvidal the lightweight journeyman is brought up, lol no.
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I think the reason for no elite boxers (WW or otherwise) in UFC/MMA is because elite boxers can make a lot more money sticking with boxing.
 
JustOnce said:
We had great boxers in heavyweight like JDS, Fedor, Arlovski, Sergei, Alex and so on.
We had great boxers in lightheavyweight like Gus, Lil Nog, and so on.
We had great boxers in middleweight like Android, Mousasi, Vitor and so on.
We had great boxers in lightweight like Conor, Gomi, BJ, and so on.
We had great boxers in featherweight like Holloway, and so on.
We had great boxers in bantamweight like Cody, and so on.

I feel like the BEST boxer in welterweight history HAS to be Nick Diaz, but even though he's I think the best boxer at welterweight history, I'm sure lots of people would disagree, but I say best boxer at welterweight who would come out on top if they go head to head and who would outbox Nick?,

you know, I feel like the lack of elite boxers in welterweight has to be with the fact that it just used to be a shark tank of elite wrestlers at welterweight. In case Masvidal the lightweight journeyman is brought up, lol no.
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Your definition of "great", I believe differs from most who grasp that just because one has a skill set, doesn't mean they are "great" at it. Stipe, Lytle, KJ, Duffy, Davis, Holly, etc etc.. have better boxing skill sets then most you list and have the actual Boxing resume to back it up.
 
agibmxmma said:
Your definition of "great", I believe differs from most who grasp that just because one has a skill set, doesn't mean they are "great" at it. Stipe, Lytle, KJ, Duffy, Davis, Holly, etc etc.. have better boxing skill sets then most you list and have the actual Boxing resume to back it up.
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No.
 
Ts have you ever watched a fight?
What about the boxing legend Ben Askren!
That spinnin punch again Maia brought Tyson back from retirement!
 
Tone said:
  1. A lot of the people you listed were not great "boxers" but rather just strikers. I love Fedor but his boxing style was sloppy boxing.
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Sloppy effective boxing. Shit doesn't have to look pretty, it works or it doesnt
 
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