Kre-alkalyn/creatine

[farmboy]

I am going to start on creatine, again, and was wondering if anyone had tried or had heard anything about this brand. It was suggested through p/m by someone off the board.

 

[Snowblind]

I have been taking it for a while and it works better than any creatine powder I've taken.

 

[#1can]

My understanding is Kre-Alkalyn is just a buffered creatine and works exactly the same as any CEE...so I bought bulk nutrition's CEE which is like 1/4 the price, and shows the testing certificate to prove it's actually what it says it is.

 

[farmboy]

Thanks for the help.

 

[Jay M.]

CEE and Kre-Alkalyn are by no means the same. Kre-Alkalyn contains soda ash which actually decreases the PH in the stomach to allow for less degradation of the creatine into creatinine.

And as far as price, if you buy SciFit's brand of Kre-Alkalyn the price difference is not that large.

 

[BoxingFanNoMore]

CEE and Kre-Alkalyn are by no means the same. Kre-Alkalyn contains soda ash which actually decreases the PH in the stomach to allow for less degradation of the creatine into creatinine.

And as far as price, if you buy SciFit's brand of Kre-Alkalyn the price difference is not that large.

First, I think you are a little confused on the pH scale. Decreasing the pH of an acid makes it more acidic. Last time I checked the stomach was a very acidic enviroment.

Second, do you have any evidence that Kre-Alkalyn slows the conversion rate of Creatine => Creatinine in the human digestive process, and actually increases the bio-availability of the creatine. Because when I tried to find this information, I couldnt. And none was included in the Patent for this product which you can see in this thread.

kre-alkalyn

 

[#1can]

Isn't CEE buffered creatine?

I havent taken chem since first year engineering, but doesn't a buffer have some effect (or negate some effect) on/of pH?

I think they are pretty much the same, maybe different ways of going about the same thing?

 

[Madmick]

First, I think you are a little confused on the pH scale. Decreasing the pH of an acid makes it more acidic. Last time I checked the stomach was a very acidic enviroment.

Second, do you have any evidence that Kre-Alkalyn slows the conversion rate of Creatine => Creatinine in the human digestive process, and actually increases the bio-availability of the creatine. Because when I tried to find this information, I couldnt. And none was included in the Patent for this product which you can see in this thread.

kre-alkalyn

Yeah, Jay, I'm with BFN on this one. I read their claims, but I looked everywhere, and they have absolutely no evidence to support it that I could find.

They're hyping their product on pretty theory, it seems to me.

 

[BoxingFanNoMore]

Isn't CEE buffered creatine?

I havent taken chem since first year engineering, but doesn't a buffer have some effect (or negate some effect) on/of pH?

I think they are pretty much the same, maybe different ways of going about the same thing?

The two products are dealing with two different phases of the Digestive and Metabolic process.

A buffer is used to help control or keep constant the pH of a solution during some process or
reaction.

Basically, Kre-alklyn is supposed to slow down the conversion of creatine into creatinine. If you look at that other thread you can see the basic theory, the conversion rate of creatine into creatinine is accelerated in a more acidic solution, no surprise that is basic chemistry.

And the guy did some research to show this fact. That is it as far as I can tell.

Seems like a pretty big piece of the puzzle is missing. Like the whole human digestive and metabolic process and interaction.

 

[monkey roll]

know of any cheap CEE brands out there?

The Scifit Kre-Alkalyn only contains 1.2g per serving, it that enought?

 

[#1can]

Cheap CEE? bulknutrition. 200 days at 5 g/day for 34 bucks.

 

[monkey roll]

Cheap CEE? bulknutrition. 200 days at 5 g/day for 34 bucks.

any problems ordering from them in canada? like extra fees duties ect.

 

[#1can]

any problems ordering from them in canada? like extra fees duties ect.

shipping was 14 bucks american for fedex ground, then i got a customs bill from fedex for $26 CDN


$34+$14 US = around $60 CDN

so the total is about 86 CDN for 200 days worth of tested CEE...still a fucking sweet deal.

 

[KSaku39FAN]

Try Green Bulge. Its pretty popular among workout forums I've visisted. They say to stack it with another product called white blood.

info link:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/green.html

cheapest from reliable vendor I could find.
http://www.dpsnutrition.net/product_information.asp?number=CD012&back=search&dept=

I'm using CytoSport's Fast Twitch right now which has CEE/NO. Its more prework out drink. Gives me some more kick in my work outs. But I think I might try Green Bulge next.