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Knee Slide to Baseball Choke

I've always preferred both hands in the collar over the lapel wrap. Can't really say why.
 
I've always preferred both hands in the collar over the lapel wrap. Can't really say why.
I always have a hard time getting my grip inside the collar. How do you get in there if the collar isn't loose enough?
 
I always have a hard time getting my grip inside the collar. How do you get in there if the collar isn't loose enough?
I get the near hand in thumb down at the tag, push the gi to open slack, then cup the back of their head with the far hand, lift the head and flip the grip four fingers in. Shift it all back into place and attack the finish, which can be the traditional baseball or just pull them to their side and paper cutter.

It's actually quite smooth and easy. Much less fuss than the lapel. It requires a more upright knee on belly approach, so you gotta finish whatever pass you're talking it off first I suppose.
 
I get the near hand in thumb down at the tag, push the gi to open slack, then cup the back of their head with the far hand, lift the head and flip the grip four fingers in. Shift it all back into place and attack the finish, which can be the traditional baseball or just pull them to their side and paper cutter.

It's actually quite smooth and easy. Much less fuss than the lapel. It requires a more upright knee on belly approach, so you gotta finish whatever pass you're talking it off first I suppose.

Ok the upright knee on belly part makes sense. I am usually going for it from this knee slide position, so maybe that is part of my problem with the collar.
 
Ok the upright knee on belly part makes sense. I am usually going for it from this knee slide position, so maybe that is part of my problem with the collar.
So long as you can get one grip anywhere, you should be able to control the slack by pushing or pulling, as with any collar choke.
 
I've always preferred both hands in the collar over the lapel wrap. Can't really say why.
I don't like most chokes involving the lapel. Too many things can go wrong, for me anyway. And it's not worth all the trouble.
 
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