Klokov presses

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Just curious if anyone here uses these regularly. And what their thoughts are on them.

Klokov press = Behind the neck, snatch grip, press
 
Yeah, I do. They're good for shoulder stability, especially in the snatch. And they make my shoulders feel all good and stuff. It's like a day at the spa, for your shoulders.
 
I like 'em. I haven't done them in awhile, though. Fwiw, I might just press instead.
 
I did these when I was younger almost religously, didn't have any problems. Then I stopped when I read an article that said they were bad...
 
To quote William Wong:

"The deltoids stop working at 90 degrees of abduction. That's about the starting position for this exercise! So what are you really working here? Your upper back some, and your triceps a lot. Your deltoids act as fixators; muscles that support the joint and allow movement to happen. But they do not act as prime movers or even agonists (in other words the deltoids don't do much here at all). What this exercise will do is to wreck the rear of your rotator cuff"
 
I tried them last year. My shoulders didn't like them.

My shoulders are a special case, so don't interpret that as "they are bad for the shoulders".

I recently tried BTN pressing with a jerk grip. My shoulders like those.
 
I don't do behind the neck presses as my shoulder will come out of the socket.
 
Uchi Mata said:
To quote William Wong:

"The deltoids stop working at 90 degrees of abduction. That's about the starting position for this exercise! So what are you really working here? Your upper back some, and your triceps a lot. Your deltoids act as fixators; muscles that support the joint and allow movement to happen. But they do not act as prime movers or even agonists (in other words the deltoids don't do much here at all). What this exercise will do is to wreck the rear of your rotator cuff"
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Sauce on 90 degress stop working thing.

What's wrong with improving upper back and tricep strength? I don't know shit, but this seems like a great way to improve overhead stability in the snatch.

Not sure I really believe the wrecking your rotator cuff part.
 
Fighting Sprite said:
Sauce on 90 degress stop working thing.

What's wrong with improving upper back and tricep strength? I don't know shit, but this seems like a great way to improve overhead stability in the snatch.

Not sure I really believe the wrecking your rotator cuff part.
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Its crap.

Back when weightlifters did them all the time, no one had problems. I have done them for more than 30 years. SGPBTN were often used to build stability in the shoulders and upper back to assist in fixing the bar overhead in the snatch.
 
Eric Brown said:
Its crap.

Back when weightlifters did them all the time, no one had problems. I have done them for more than 30 years. SGPBTN were often used to build stability in the shoulders and upper back to assist in fixing the bar overhead in the snatch.
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Would you recommend Klokov's to people who are training to get stronger, but who aren't Olympic Lifters?
 
I do them occasionally, not religiously. No problems yet, they feel good - and this is coming from a guy with a bad history of shoulder injuries. As one of my buddies put it: "I do klokov presses because I want my upper back to look like a pit of vipers"
 
Thanks y'all for the responses.

I was looking at them, for now, as a temporary alternative to regular pressing. As the narrow grip seems to bother my shoulder at the moment (been rehabbing it for a while now, just muscular issues and is getting better). But doing some lighter Klokov pressing this morning didn't bother it at all. Which is why I was wondering about them.

I'm also planning on adding snatches back in when my shoulder is 100% as well, so that's the other reason for them as my upper back stability has always been a weakness.
 
Uchi Mata said:
To quote William Wong:

"The deltoids stop working at 90 degrees of abduction. That's about the starting position for this exercise! So what are you really working here? Your upper back some, and your triceps a lot. Your deltoids act as fixators; muscles that support the joint and allow movement to happen. But they do not act as prime movers or even agonists (in other words the deltoids don't do much here at all). What this exercise will do is to wreck the rear of your rotator cuff"
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Absolute complete garbage from someone who is full of s...
 
KnightTemplar said:
I do; I meant as an assistance exercise to regular Pressing.
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Not really. Unless you have a wobbly bar path on the press, then you might get a little more stability, I suppose. Otherwise things like push press and close grip bench press are better options. Really, most people who do not snatch really do not need this exercise.

I do them, but it is to maintain stability in the snatch/power snatch. Noticed when I quit doing them for extended periods of time I was not quite as solid at the top. But that is a personal thing, given my extra-length arms. I know plenty of guys who put up bigger numbers than me and they never do this exercise.
 
Eric Brown said:
Not really. Unless you have a wobbly bar path on the press, then you might get a little more stability, I suppose. Otherwise things like push press and close grip bench press are better options. Really, most people who do not snatch really do not need this exercise.

I do them, but it is to maintain stability in the snatch/power snatch. Noticed when I quit doing them for extended periods of time I was not quite as solid at the top. But that is a personal thing, given my extra-length arms. I know plenty of guys who put up bigger numbers than me and they never do this exercise.
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Thanks, Eric.
 
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